The Football.....

[Scaleyback]

Think we saw the best and worst of it yesterday. Dasilva's stamp on Targett's ankle was missed, then he was rightly sent off after review; it was a clear handball by Rodri and should have been a penalty, it shouldn't have even needed a review!

I'm not sure about the " worst of it yesterdy " did you see the Man City defender and the contentious handball decision yesterday in the Everton match. The Ref didn't call it' As replays did show he was unsighted. VAR spent 'forever' looking at it and said ' no handball ' The defender looked to have played the ball with 9/10th's of his arm and maybe 1/10th of his short sleeve jersey. So reminiscent of Dawson's goal for West Ham against Leicester. VAR is turning what is essentially 'a simple game' into a forensic examination of lines, angles and what is an arm/hand and what isn't. For what benefit ? sure they catch the odd offside that due to cm's would have been missed by the officials. To what advantage ? we see less goals, we lose continuity of play, we get endless discussions re the rights and wrongs of VAR to the detriment of the actual football and the 'coup de grace' we still get errors. Bonkers they are ruining the grand old game.

 

[Chislenko]

In more important football news CPD Y Rhyl 1879 yesterday beat Prestatyn Sports 4-0 to close the gap on the top two. Games in hand could see us win promotion in our first season as a "newly formed" club.

 

[AndyRM]

I'm not sure about the " worst of it yesterdy " did you see the Man City defender and the contentious handball decision yesterday in the Everton match. The Ref didn't call it' As replays did show he was unsighted. VAR spent 'forever' looking at it and said ' no handball ' The defender looked to have played the ball with 9/10th's of his arm and maybe 1/10th of his short sleeve jersey. So reminiscent of Dawson's goal for West Ham against Leicester. VAR is turning what is essentially 'a simple game' into a forensic examination of lines, angles and what is an arm/hand and what isn't. For what benefit ? sure they catch the odd offside that due to cm's would have been missed by the officials. To what advantage ? we see less goals, we lose continuity of play, we get endless discussions re the rights and wrongs of VAR to the detriment of the actual football and the 'coup de grace' we still get errors. Bonkers they are ruining the grand old game.

Er, yes. That's why I mentioned it.

 

[Vapin' Joe]

Then they should be sent off, isn't studs up a sending off offence?
I think you're just making excuses!🙂

Tell that to the doctor who has to be carted off to A&E after losing half his face while he was bending over an injured player.

Unworkable idea.

 

[Scaleyback]

Er, yes. That's why I mentioned it.

My apologies, I saw the reference to the stamp on Targett and I must have switched off then, a senior moment

 

[AndyRM]

My apologies, I saw the reference to the stamp on Targett and I must have switched off then, a senior moment

No need to apologise, I have plenty and I'm only 36

 

[Vapin' Joe]

A very important win for West Ham today against an in form Wolves. I must admit, I was not expecting that.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

did you see the Man City defender and the contentious handball decision yesterday in the Everton match. The Ref didn't call it

Apparently VAR did not rule on the handball as there was an offside in the build up, so it didn't matter either way.

Full disclosure: I'm a city fan and VAR hater.

 

[Tenacious Sloth]

Think we saw the best and worst of it yesterday. Dasilva's stamp on Targett's ankle was missed, then he was rightly sent off after review; it was a clear handball by Rodri and should have been a penalty, it shouldn't have even needed a review!

I don’t watch that much football nowadays, 35 years of supporting Swindon Town does that to you.

But I did watch the Everton v Man City highlights on MOTD last night and cannot even begin to imagine why a penalty for handball wasn’t given by VAR?

I can now see why football supporters don’t like VAR as Stevie Wonder must be manning the VAR Booth.

Edit: Just seen the explanation above about the offside. Fair enough.

Why aren’t the onfield ref and VAR official mic’d up as in Cricket and Rugby?

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Why aren’t the onfield ref and VAR official mic’d up as in Cricket and Rugby?

This.

I've previously heard it was because the foul language and abuse routinely directed at referees would bring the game into disrepute...

 

[Tenacious Sloth]

This.

I've previously heard it was because the foul language and abuse routinely directed at referees would bring the game into disrepute...

Well that’s just ridiculous. If referees booked and sent players off for this, it would be non-existent within a few weeks. You'd only need a couple of games where teams get two or three players sent off for it and the Managers would stamp it out.

 

[Deleted User]

A very important win for West Ham today against an in form Wolves. I must admit, I was not expecting that.

Nor me, a draw would have been a fair result I think.

 

[Scaleyback]

Apparently VAR did not rule on the handball as there was an offside in the build up, so it didn't matter either way.

Full disclosure: I'm a city fan and VAR hater.

I think this is incorrect. If you google the Rodri no handball decision you will see the Premier League has reportedly said "there was not conclusive evidence that the ball struck the illegal area of Rodri's arm." Richarlison slightly offside in the build up was not a factor.
There was much discussion about this decision on last night's match of the day. They unanimously agreed it was handball ( even Micah Richards, a 'devout' Citizen.) No mention of offside being a factor.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

I think this is incorrect. If you google the Rodri no handball decision you will see the Premier League has reportedly said "there was not conclusive evidence that the ball struck the illegal area of Rodri's arm." Richarlison slightly offside in the build up was not a factor.
There was much discussion about this decision on last night's match of the day. They unanimously agreed it was handball ( even Micah Richards, a 'devout' Citizen.) No mention of offside being a factor.

I, as another devout "Cityzen" agree it was handball and expected a penalty. Am only reporting what I was told as to the rationale.

Is there a link for that PL rationale? I don't think they often (ever??) give a post-hoc justification?

It all adds to my loathing of VAR. Just let the officials get on with it, and accept there will be mistakes.

 

[SpokeyDokey]

Cracking game - two excellant teams and difficult to choose between them.

Well done to LFC for winning the very long penalty shoot out.