The Football.....

[matticus]

. I'm not sure why you think I'm blaming Tuchel for how we played between the goal and the first sub, I've never said that.

So you think that period was irrelevant?
You don't think the players went into their shells for 17minutes, and Tuchel reacted by making his first sub?
If he'd done nothing you can be certain he would still be blamed for ARG goals, which I think we agree were inevitable with the defensive mindset the team took up, against that ARG attack.

 

[Alex321]

So you think that period was irrelevant?

Canb you find anything he posted which might lead to thaht conclusion?

You don't think the players went into their shells for 17minutes, and Tuchel reacted by making his first sub?

Again, where has he said anything approaching that?

You are reading him not saying things as meaning the opposite of what you mighth have said, when it actually just means he hasn't commented on that matter.

If he'd done nothing you can be certain he would still be blamed for ARG goals, which I think we agree were inevitable with the defensive mindset the team took up, against that ARG attack.

I don't think there is any argument there. The question isn't whether he should have done nothing, but is rather about whether going more defensive was really the right choice, or whether he might have been better swapping fresh legs for tired ones, but keeping the same shape.

With 20:20 hindsight, going more defensive doesn't appear to have been the right choice.

 

[matticus]

Canb you find anything he posted which might lead to thaht conclusion?

whatevva - I'm not getting into meta-arguments with 3rd parties. Find your own argument. Or comment on my actual analysis - the facts are there, enjoy! xxx

 

[matticus]

EDIT: the joke's on me here! Initally my browser played this in arabic, but now it's embedded you seem to get the English version. Sorry @Alex321 for wasting your time

MEANWHILE .....

I defy anyone to watch this, and conclude that Tuchel told Kane to sit in our penalty area:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4qoGHPKS6o

 

[No Ta Doctor]

whatevva - I'm not getting into meta-arguments with 3rd parties. Find your own argument. Or comment on my actual analysis - the facts are there, enjoy! xxx

Mate, I'm going to try and say this nicely, because I've just come off a ban and don't want to cop another one, and have already told you I'm out of this "argument"

@Alex321 is entirely correct - whatever it is you're arguing with it's nothing I've said or claimed or made as an argument. If you want to make an argument that "some people might think" and then destroy it please be my guest, but I'd rather not stand there and hold it for you as a strawman. Have a nice day

 

[Alex321]

MEANWHILE .....

I defy anyone to watch this, and conclude that Tuchel told Kane to sit in our penalty area:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4qoGHPKS6o

Why would anybody conclude that?

A complete straw man argument again, since nobody has suggested Tuchel did any such thing.

 

[T4tomo]

Worth $30m too, which isn't a huge amount for sides like England or France, but it's still a significant sum, especially for a smaller FA.

It pales into insignificance when compared to how much Infantino & Blatter before him have trousered....

 

[matticus]

Why would anybody conclude that?

A complete straw man argument again, since nobody has suggested Tuchel did any such thing.

Calm down mate! if you want to discuss my actual post, with logic and fact, please come back to me.
(p.s. ignore the Kane video - I'll to find you a more interesting one later ... )

 

[Alex321]

Calm down mate! if you want to discuss my actual post, with logic and fact, please come back to me.
(p.s. ignore the Kane video - I'll to find you a more interesting one later ... )

There is nothing to dicuss in your actual pst. You are asking whether people can come to a conclusion which nobody has suggested is likely.

Since nobody was coming to that conclusion anyhow, why would that change their mind?

 

[postman]

Did you see how much space on the right they gave Messi,England were all in the penalty area.That shot from outside the box was like an arrow,but he had so much time.