The high speed left hook

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Origamist

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magnatom said:
BM,

Origamist, funnily enough I have taken that corner at speed before, (not 30mph admittedly), probably about 20-25mph, when the road was quiet.;)

Have you got film of you taking that corner at approx 25mph? Seriously though, I think you should be going slower when coming up to that junction - battling to keep up with traffic flow is one thing, but at that speed, at a junction that you have already indentified as problematic (you're masked by vehicles ahead of you in the lane, your braking distances are pretty long at 30mph and it's wet in the video you posted) I think more caution, i.e. less speed would be advisable. There are sections of my commute where I can hit 30mph +, but don't.
 
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magnatom

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BentMikey said:
Fair enough on the livesaver. So you're rejecting Origamist's point about slowing down more?

Oh you like a good argument doncha! ;) No, sorry, I was interrupted when writing the post so lost track! I'm not one to avoid questions, as well you know!

Yes, slowing down is an option, however, I think it will depend on circumstances. If there are no cars at the junction, or threatening me fromthe right hand lane, then I think up to 30mph is fine. Any 'threats' and the speed will drop accordingly.

To be fair, in this video I think my speed was fine. I had ample time to react to the threat, although he was not to know that.
 

Dan B

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magnatom said:
Lifesavers are always good, but due to the curve of the road I am very aware of what is behind me in the right hand lane.
Lifesavers are useful not only for knowing what's behind you, but also for knowing that they know you know. If you see what I mean.

That said, I can't really fault your riding here. I'm not sure it was necessarily "must pass cyclist", though: I've seen the same behaviour often enough when in a car
 

Origamist

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coruskate said:
Lifesavers are useful not only for knowing what's behind you, but also for knowing that they know you know. If you see what I mean.

Indeed.

coruskate said:
That said, I can't really fault your riding here. I'm not sure it was necessarily "must pass cyclist", though: I've seen the same behaviour often enough when in a car

I tend to agree -it's a fairly innocuous clip. 15 years ago I wold probably have been riding faster than Magnatom on the approach to that junction (I still might, in some situations), generally though, I'm a bit more circumspect nowadays. But as always, do as I say, not as I do...
 
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Origamist said:
I tend to agree -it's a fairly innocuous clip. 15 years ago I wold probably have been riding faster than Magnatom on the approach to that junction (I still might, in some situations), generally though, I'm a bit more circumspect nowadays. But as always, do as I say, not as I do...

Oh aye, it isn't one of the worst that's for sure (and I say that on the clip), but I felt it was worth posting, as it was a new problem in a new situation for me, and as such a good thing for me and others to learn from.

It sounds like you would cycle this in a similar fashion to me as I described above. When there are danger signs, slow a bit, when not let rip...;):ohmy:
 
If it is a problem junction then you will know through experience what to expect no?

Perhaps you will modify your riding accordingly to deal with potential threats.

You must know what motons atre going to do in advance just like I know roughly what black cabs are going to do in London.

Actually it didn't look too much of a problem but I could see on another day it probably would be.
 
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hackbike 666 said:
If it is a problem junction then you will know through experience what to expect no?

Perhaps you will modify your riding accordingly to deal with potential threats.

You must know what motons atre going to do in advance just like I know roughly what black cabs are going to do in London.

Actually it didn't look too much of a problem but I could see on another day it probably would be.

Hack, this is part of my new commute, so I have only been riding down here for a few weeks. I am just discovering the hot spots and having now had two incidents here I realise that this is a hot spot.

So, no, I don't have much experience of this junction, so I didn't know what to expect! ;)
 
magnatom said:
Hack, this is part of my new commute, so I have only been riding down here for a few weeks. I am just discovering the hot spots and having now had two incidents here I realise that this is a hot spot.

So, no, I don't have much experience of this junction, so I didn't know what to expect! ;)

Same basis with my Blackfriars Bridge right turn..As they have made the bridge an absolute nightmare for cyclists im still toying with alll the different ways I can do it.I tried a different way today but it's fine when im at the front of the traffic but it's too dangerous to filter through to the front.So I can't always be at there.;);)
 

jay clock

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I must say the older I get the more relaxed I get. That doesn;t look particularly bad (not great driving), but let's be honest if you eased off on the speed slightly (at a junction you know to be dangerous) you would be a bit safer, and you might be 4 or 5 seconds slower in getting to work. The more you look for these sort of things the more you will find them Chillax
 
For the second time this week I had to watch a video again as I couldn't see what the problem was straight off.Probably because on my commute this sort of thing is common.

Of course I didn't take maggers speed into account though.
 

MacB

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I think I'd be scrubbing speed as a matter of course on that approach, regardless of traffic, conditions etc. I'd want to be passing the junction able to take evasive action. There're two points on my commute I do the same thing. One of which sees me knocking 10mph off the speed I'd be doing if just freewheeling.
 
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