The ignorant and self-righteous.

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Maz

Guru
Just because a person is old does not give them carte blanche to be irritating gits, The Magicshine is an efficient way to convince them to move without running into them or saying something rude. And yes it is rude to shine a light at someone, but it is down right dangerous to purposefully step in front of a cyclist.
Go for it, hennbell, if that's what you want to do. I'd rather give them a smile and politely speak to them.
 

Miquel In De Rain

No Longer Posting
Get this on the Waterloo shared path but I find it's best to be patient.
 

Matthew_T

"Young and Ex-whippet"
The problem is, most owners think that it is okay to let their dog run around anywhere as long as it is on a lead.I would much prefer a dog to be on its own, on the oposite side of a path to the owners as long as they werent connected by a lead.

I have nearly cycled into so many leads, and then the owners look at me with a 'What are you doing?' expression. The problem isnt the dog, it is the lead.
 

SomethingLikeThat

Über Member
Location
South London
Given that they don't have a 'side' as such, how can you expect them to keep to it?

The markings on shared use paths are about delineating where the cyclists can go - not the pedestrians.
No, a lot of these paths have a line down the middle and signage. Pedestrians and one side and cyclists on other. Granted not all shared paths have this but many do.
 
I know nothing of the subject matter of this thread and feel no need to understand it.

I don't like to boast, but I do tend to see a halo over my own head when I look in the mirror.

That's why I drive a car and that's why I have right of way, while pedestrians (with bicycle or without) make way for me.

Ignorant and self-righteous indeed!

Pfff...
 

al78

Guru
Location
Horsham
No, a lot of these paths have a line down the middle and signage. Pedestrians and one side and cyclists on other. Granted not all shared paths have this but many do.

No, it is pedestrians & cyclists on one side, pedestrians only on the other, i.e. pedestrians can use any part of the path, cyclists can only use the part marked with a cycle symbol. I understand what you are getting at though, and as a pedestrian I walk on the ped-only part as much as is practical, as it is the best way to enable everyone to make reasonable progress.
 

akb

Veteran
The problem isnt the dog, it is the lead

Wrong, the problem is the owner. I dont like seeing extendable leads on a dog full stop. An extendable lead, to me, implies that the dog is not very good at recall and needs to be under control all the time. It is these types of dogs who should really be on a short lead. But to blame either the dog or the means in which the owner is attempting to control the dog is absurd.
 

akb

Veteran
Yes - and the line is about where the cyclist can go - not the pedestrians. Pedestrians are legally entitled to use the whole of the path - cyclists can only use the part delineated for them That's the law that a lot of cyclists forget

Interesting, as not all shared use paths have any markings at all. Yes, a sign stating the use of the path, but not stating who should be where on the path. Common sense should kick in here, walk/cyle/jog/dogwalk/horseride on the left as you were on the road. Everyone is then happy.
 

Pikey

Waiting for the turbo to kick in...
Location
Wiltshire
Hi
Sorry that my second post is a bit of venting, but...
Near the end of my sodden commute to work today, on marked and signed unsegregated cycle/pedestrian path alongside the road (with oncoming cars etc beside me on my left). Up ahead old guy with small yappie type dog on the right (away from the road) walking towards me. Dog on lead. Old guy moves towards me, dog remains as is. I slow. Old guy is looking right at me. Lead is stretched out across path. I think nothing of it particularly until I am squeezing into the ten inches or so he's left me between himself and the kerb, and then I'm thinking "this is a bit tight".

Just as I pass him, he quietly says into my ear one word - "pedestrian".

Now it all clicks - he thinks I am in the wrong somehow, and he's tried to force me into the road into oncoming traffic to prove his point. I slam on the anchors and shout over my shoulder "This is a shared pedestrian/cycle path, there are blue signs on the lamposts, did you not see the signs?". I am inwardly impressed that I don't use any expletives.

But he just ambles away, not even bothering to look back at me.

One minute later at the bike shed the full rage hits me and I am tempted to go find him and make him acknowledge me. But luckily a work colleague turns up and I can share the tale with him and laugh about it instead.

But he's still out there, ambling along, terrorising cyclists, being self-righteous. Next time, I will aim toward his dog rather than the kerb. There is nice soft grass on the right if running over Rover throws me off.


Imagine the mess if you were to use studded snow tyres as you went over said furry speed bump.

Perfectly justifiable in precaution given the current weather.
 

downfader

extimus uero philosophus
Location
'ampsheeeer
Friday afternoon I was riding home on a shared path. Similar to this its a mixed off-road route (the road is scary, even for me so if I ride this way I will use the shared path).

Up ahead there was another rider approaching a man in his late 50s walking two dogs on one of those "Y" dual-leads. I saw said rider stop for a second in front of the man and some words were had and he rode on with a shrug of the shoulder. I thought no more of it and as I drew close to the man myself he leaned towards me (over the dogs) and said:

"AND YOU CAN SWITCH YOUR ****ING LIGHTS OFF TOO!!!!!"

I just looked at him and laughed. I had the front light on due to low sun. I saw a rider going the other way so warned him to keep his distance.
 
It only takes a few seconds to stop and be polite

I find that it works wonders..... however if you are feeling naughty then stop short at the mid point where the lead stretches across the path
That way they either have to reverse and walk round you or to recall the dog around you.
 
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