The new improved Lance Armstrong discussion thread.*

[yello]

Careful Smeggers, you could be falling for it

Edit: I believe it's a trait of a liar to evade a question and respond with the rhetorical question. 'Why would I do that?' 'Why would I risk that?' type of thing. It's a self-reassuring tactic, to avoid having to actually lie and expose oneself. Someone telling the truth has no difficulty in responding directly... 'no, I did not dope'. Btw, did you notice the big swallow he took when he actually said 'I did not take drugs'? Again apparently, that is a sign of a lie.

 

[yello]

Slightly off topic but did anyone see this report on a piece written by Joey Barton. I'm no fan of Barton but he's more astute than I gave him credit for and serves a timely reminder that Cycling is not the only sport with problems.

I too was surprised by that. Not at all what I would have expected from Barton. He appears to give the issue some thought rather than just twittered a half-arse response.

Edit: reading through the comments, I see a 'dimspace' has chimed in. I wonder if it's THE dimspace of velorooms.com etc. I'd guess so as he comes across very knowledgably.

 

[johnr]

Liggett's got contracts 'til 2016! I hope none of them are with ITV4.

The world has gone completely loco. We have Joey Barton making articulate sense about our issue and raising direct and pertinent questions about his own sport and Nike. And on the other hand, the voice of cycling, fresh from a pasting over his 'someone told me USADA bribed witnesses' debacle, weighing in with an admission that whilst he has not read the USADA evidence someone texted him to say Pharmstrong would be dead if he'd taken all those drugs, so that shows he couldn't have.

The whole cycling gravy train needs uncoupling and scrapping if we're ever to get a fresh start: UCI, bent management of cycling teams, all those that finance them (Nike, Trek and Oakley first) and all the sycophantic toadies who pass themselves off as commentators and reporters.

Thanks for your attention, I feel a lot better now.

 

[Crackle]

Edit: reading through the comments, I see a 'dimspace' has chimed in. I wonder if it's THE dimspace of velorooms.com etc. I'd guess so as he comes across very knowledgably.

The comments section is actually very good.

 

[Russell Allen]

With reference to the Joey Barton article, I'm sure nobody doubts that other sports have an issue with doping, one only has to look at tennis, Rafael Nadal's pulling out of his olympic matches with injury (rumoured to be a notorious doper avoiding the stringent testing) and Andy Murray seemed to bulk up enormously one off season a few years ago. Anyone who thought football (which requires a blend of stamina and strength and involved wages of millions of pounds) would be immune to the use of PEDS would be mad. I'm sure Sepp Blatter and all his cronies at FIFA are more than aware of what is going on and choose to turn a blind eye for fear of damaging the reputation of the sport....alienating sponsors blah blah
...............sound familiar....................LOL

Russell

 

[Noodley]

This quote from Liggett nearly had my in tears (of laughter):

"I had an email from an eminent scientist from the US yesterday. An SMS actually. It said if Lance Armstrong had taken the drugs outlined by USADA he’d have been dead ten years ago. He’s an eminent scientist and a very intelligent man. I don’t know his name, the SMS came from a secondary person.”

Are you sure now Phil, it wasnae a letter sent in a bottle by a seagull?

He is a cockwomble.

 

[rich p]

This quote from Liggett nearly had my in tears (of laughter):

"I had an email from an eminent scientist from the US yesterday. An SMS actually. It said if Lance Armstrong had taken the drugs outlined by USADA he’d have been dead ten years ago. He’s an eminent scientist and a very intelligent man. I don’t know his name, the SMS came from a secondary person.”

Are you sure now Phil, it wasnae a letter sent in a bottle by a seagull?

He is a cockwomble.

Dear Mother of God. The man is certifiable.

 

[rich p]

This quote from Liggett nearly had my in tears (of laughter):

"I had an email from an eminent scientist from the US yesterday. An SMS actually. It said if Lance Armstrong had taken the drugs outlined by USADA he’d have been dead ten years ago. He’s an eminent scientist and a very intelligent man. I don’t know his name, the SMS came from a secondary person.”

Are you sure now Phil, it wasnae a letter sent in a bottle by a seagull?

He is a cockwomble.

I've just read the piece, Noodles...

... Liggett said: “I don’t believe it’s possible to write a book like Tyler Hamilton has done without it being the truth. I don’t think it’s possible. Everyone has read the book. There has to be a lot of truth in book but at the end of the day there has be a shadow of doubt.”
It's just contradictory garbage - much like his commentary!

 

[Crackle]

I think there's a reason for Liggett's confusion

 

[rich p]

Have you seen this tweet from Danny Pate!

Got an SMS from a secondary person about a guy who I'm not even sure of his name...BUT he said unicorns poop cupcakes, must be true

 

[Vapin' Joe]

So yeah, he did it, but the USADA didn't prove it with any truly concrete evidence to my mind. I don't think you'd have hung a murderer on that evidence.

Really?

Many a murder has gone to the gallows based on eye witness evidence. Despite what you might think from watching CSI not every case is decided on forensic evidence, and until a few decades ago the vast majority weren't.

 

[RedRider]

Peddlers - Cycling's Dirty Truth ...a two-hour prog on radio 5-live . On now ie 7-9pm, 15/10/12. Tyler Hamilton being interviewed now

 

[yello]

sh*t sh*t sh*t.... I forgot all about it.... I'll have to try and listen to the fist 35 minutes on listen again.

 

[Crosstrailer]

The more I think about this the more I believe that Armstrong needs to text the number at the end of the Jeremy Kyle show and demand lie detector tests for the key witnesses. It could be the greatest JK show ever.

"And you know what............he was telling the TRUTH !!!!! THATS RIGHT JUST STORM OFF LANCE BECAUSE THE TRUTH HURTS !!!!!"​

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[beastie]

Quick close the thread before it gets to 4 figures!