The slow death of Nokia

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That's the appeal of android for me, Crackle - I use google calendar a lot, and it's very much better than any offering from anyone else currently (which may be why other companies seem so reluctant to play nicely with it).

I would say you wouldn't be disappointed. I'm a reasonably late adopter and I've waited for Android to mature, whilst looking to see if I can do all the things I used to do on my Palm. I can now and more and some of the things on the Android phone just make me smile with pleasure at their cleverness, the Sky map, Google Navigation, Tracks, Winamp and numerous other stuff and the ease with which it does it is just lovely. PIM integration is not so good as the Palm but switching from Outlook to Thunderbird, adding Evernote and moving Calendar, Contacts and some documents to Google has worked really well. My one criticism is battery life. 4 or 5 days on a Palm has gone to 1.5 on Android and far less if you use GPS, so you have to disciplined to keep it charged up.
 

John the Monkey

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My one criticism is battery life. 4 or 5 days on a Palm has gone to 1.5 on Android and far less if you use GPS, so you have to disciplined to keep it charged up.

1.5 is pretty much what I'd expect from a smart phone that gets used, tbh - GPS, that big screen, wi-fi &c all takes its toll. Ta for the round up though, will takea serious look (tots up remaining months) next January :smile:
 

Norm

Guest
I think that Nokia make (still!) the best phone interface, I find it much easier and more intuitive than the offerings from Sony Ericsson, Samsung, Siemens, etc.

However, for a smart phone interface, Android is so far ahead of Nokia's game that Nokia wouldn't even recognise what ball Google is using.

IMO.
 

Jezston

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London
I bought Nokia's new 'flagship' phone the N8 shortly after it came out late last year, after having had an HTC Desire with android for a few months.

It is, and I totally acknowledge it despite the hordes of Nokia fanboys who try to deny it for some inexplicable reason, a bit of a mess.

Physically, hardware wise, the phone is FANTASTIC. Looks great, feels nice and comfortable in the hand, virtually bullet proof (3 months and no gel shell or screen cover and I have nary a scuff). Touch screen is very responsive, camera is aeons better than any other camera phone out there - about as good as a decent compact digital camera, albeit without an optical zoom. The battery life is also AEONS better than any other smartphone out there - with hefty use I'd be lucky to last the day with my Desire. With similar use I can easily get 2, sometimes 3 days without a charge on my N8.

Operating system wise it is a MESS. There are some really useful little features on it that have appeared through Symbians long, long life that other phones lack such as the actually useable and fast voice recognition (unlike the utterly useless voice recognition on Android) and a speech synth saying the name of the person calling when the phone rings, which I love. However, the browser is still pre-iPhone era utter dreadfulness (although it does have some flash support), crashes, cockups, weird unpredictable behaviour, serious slowness, bizarre counter-intuitive design decisions, options hidden away in weird places and a vast gamut of bugs that Nokia whilst acknowledging, seem to have little t no interest in fixing.

The Ovi store, Nokia's app store is a joke. Constantly cocks up downloads and installs, and is just full of useless, useless crap. There is barely anything there. I can't think of a SINGLE app available on the Ovi store that would actually be genuinely useful for anything.

Nokia promised an update for the end of January that would fix the known bugs, give us a new browser, and make the N8 the serious alternative to Android and iOS that it was supposed to be on release. They released an update which added support for a few more video formats, and some email conferencing feature no one asked for.

I have a terrible fear the announcement Nokia make tomorrow is going to be disasterous for us N8 owners.
 

Klaus

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High Wycombe
At some stage in the company's history, before mobiles, did they not produce rubber tyres, for cars and maybe for bicycles??
 

John the Monkey

Frivolous Cyclist
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Crewe
Bloody hell!

At its Strategy and Financial Briefing event today in London, Nokia has outlined its "new strategic direction, including changes in leadership and operational structure to accelerate the company's speed of execution in a dynamic competitive environment". Some more quotes below, but in short this means a reorganisation into "Smart Devices" and "Mobile Phones", with Windows Phone becoming Nokia's "primary smartphone platform" and Symbian becoming "a franchise platform, leveraging previous investments to harvest additional value". More below, and more through the day, of course. Rafe's on the ground, see the other Coveritlive news item.
(From "All About Symbian")
 

Jezston

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London
Phone by Nokia, OS by Microsoft ... video by Apple's iMovie.

So anyway, does this mean Symbian is more or less dead? Great.

Windows Phone is the total opposite of Symbian - stable and simple, but totally lacking in features.
 

PpPete

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I still have a pair of wellington boots made by Nokia !

I also have a Nokia 6300 phone - which has been hard to fault over 2 years of hard use. However the camera is now u/s (lens cracked) so I'm seriously thinking of getting on this Android boat.
 

Norm

Guest
Phone by Nokia, OS by Microsoft ... video by Apple's iMovie.

So anyway, does this mean Symbian is more or less dead? Great.

Windows Phone is the total opposite of Symbian - stable and simple, but totally lacking in features.
Prescient?

A strategic alliance with Microsoft has just been announced.
 

John the Monkey

Frivolous Cyclist
Location
Crewe
That's all future purchases of Nokia phones ruled out for me then.

Not seen it elsewhere yet, but someone is claiming that Nokia are in talks w. Google too - looks like they maybe moving to handset/services and getting out of O/s.

Makes Symbian a hard sell during their transition though.
 
Symbian has been a hard sell for a while though. Though it is quite good at some stuff, it was still light years ahead of windows 6, though the integration to the desktop was always a cause of Nokia being used as a swear word. If you just want a phone, Symbian is still a good option.
 
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