The traffic today was just h***

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MikeW-71

Veteran
Location
Carlisle
Humans are actually quite good at managing that kind of situation, aren't they. :smile:
 

subaqua

What’s the point
Location
Leytonstone
The problem with the Amsterdam model and why it wouldn't work in the UK is that we're all too stupid here.
No too many people feel " entitled" that's the reason , not stupidity .
 

Mile195

Veteran
Location
West Kent
In a town centre near me they dropped all the kerbs, paved the roads in blockwork, and there are no white lines. Give way signs have disappeared and there is only one traffic light controlled pedestrian crossing point in the blockwork area. At crossroads, they've put circles in the blockwork that look a bit like roundabouts but nobody's sure if they're just decorative or now because there are no roundabout signs.
Cue the local newspapers bleating "oh people will die, people will be hurt... good god think of the children!!".
Result? Well it's been like that for 2 years and nobodies died. In fact, cars all stop at the points where two roads meet because nobody's sure who has priority. It works perfectly.
I think it proves there is an excellent case for paving most of London in pretend roundabouts and roads with no obvious priority. People would soon get used to it, and they'd save a bloody fortune switching off the ridiculous numbers of unnecessary traffic lights all over the city. The dutch are already used to it and that's why it already works so well, but there's no reason why we couldn't be in this country as well.
 

Pat "5mph"

A kilogrammicaly challenged woman
Moderator
Location
Glasgow
Oh my, I don't think my cycling skills are up to this, I quiver when more than one of the commuting stravatist is behind me, never know if they gonna pass me from the right, left or flatten me out of the way.
Imagine lots of them coming at me from all directions :laugh:
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
Oh my, I don't think my cycling skills are up to this, I quiver when more than one of the commuting stravatist is behind me, never know if they gonna pass me from the right, left or flatten me out of the way.
Imagine lots of them coming at me from all directions :laugh:
Oh mostly all you need to do is hold your line and look beside you before moving over. If some speed demon puts their front wheel into the back of a sensible bike, they're probably going down without the slow bicycle wavering! For example, the only Boris biker I saw crash riding among thousands at Free cycle was rider error, straight into the central reservation.
 
I would say from experience this would not work. Trying to get to work recently I have a few peds step out from the kerb texting while not looking.
Or the old four people all walking together spread across the path routine.
Ring the bell, say in low voice excuse me (might as well talk a different language).
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
Or the old four people all walking together spread across the path routine.
Ring the bell, say in low voice excuse me (might as well talk a different language).
Yesterday, cycling home, there were two people walking along the track in front of me, well spread out but maybe just enough space to squeeze past (wide track) but it'd mean slowing to walking pace and may still surprise them IMO, so I rang my bell, they closed up and moved towards the left edge and thanked me as I passed. I returned the thanks and said that I just didn't want to startle them. NFN.

You must ride among nobbers ;)
 
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