The woes of choosing a touring bike

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slug56

Senior Member
In 2013 I went cycle touring around France for a month on my Boardman Road Comp (standard aluminium road bike), complete with a pannier rack and my trusty BOB Yak trailer. It was fantastic and the only mechanical I suffered was a snapped SRAM Apex gear shifter.

Lucky me, I'm returning this summer for a month, but I'm reluctant to take the Boardman again. I still use it as my commuter / winter bike, but we've done 17,000 miles together and it's getting a little tired. The headset constantly works itself loose, the mudguard mount threads are stripped and not forgetting that I crashed it into a wall with enough speed to earn myself 7 plates in my face. Oops.

So I'm in the market for a fresh new bike to take with me, but who knew finding one was so difficult? In the number of hours I've spent trawling the internet, I probably could have built my own from scratch! Just a note: I hate the idea of these bikes advertised as touring bikes. You know, steel frames, triple cranksets, weigh about 20 kg. I'm seeking a road bike / adventure / gravel bike with drop handlebars with a compact crankset and probably a 32T sprocket on the back that can handle the demands of long-distance touring.

It was looking to be the Planet X London Road, an aluminium adventure bike with all the mounts/bosses and SRAM Rival 11 for £800 or the hydraulic groupset for £1,000. It was almost a done deal, but then I stumbled across the...

... On One Bish Bash Bosh. What a stupid name. This is another Planet X brand and comes with all the mounts, the hydraulic Rival groupset again, through axles and (wait for it) it's made of carbon. My first thoughts were to avoid like the plague. Touring on a carbon bike, I must be mad. I think the fragility of carbon is overhyped a little bit though. Sure, I'd be hesitant about it, but I think having a trailer would offload most of the additional strain, which would be attached to the rear axle anyway and not the frame. £1,500.

Then, the Tomac Montezuma came along. I think it's identical to the On One listed above - literally. Planet X also acquired the Tomac brand and it looks like it's come out of the same mould. The only, only difference I can see is that it doesn't have pannier bosses on the seat stays like the On One. It costs £1,800, so why am I even considering it? Planet X are doing a 40% off code until the end of March, bringing the price down to under £1,100.

I've heard some bad things about Planet X's customer service and their carbon frames. I had a friend have his N2A frame crack. But the bad stories propagate better than the good ones. I'm still sure a purpose-built "adventure" carbon road bike would cope with the strains of touring; however, I do keep looking around everywhere for something away from the Planet X brand, but I get no where.

I'd prefer the frame to have all of the mounts to avoid the workarounds (I have a seat collar on my Boardman with pannier bosses drilled into it). I prefer SRAM to Shimano. I'd appreciate disc brakes and I'd put big rotors on there. Preference of hydraulic to mechanical. I like the idea of through axles, especially as I'm going to be weighted down and I can't see extra rigidity being a bad thing.

So... I'm not asking for a lot, am I? :bicycle:
 

andym

Über Member
Just a note: I hate the idea of these bikes advertised as touring bikes.You know, steel frames, triple cranksets,

Time to revisit your prejudices? I think that by setting your face against a steel Fran you're making your choice more difficult than it needs to be.

Steel is 'heavier' than aluminium but stronger so you need less of it to get the same strength. I suspect that a decent steel-framed bike will weigh about the same as your Boardman. Compare the weights and you'll find very little in it. Titanium has a good strength-to-weight ratio but cost more. You could go with carbon but you'd probably need the trailer.

The Planet-X Kaffenback would make a very good choice. I've never had any problems with Planet-X customer service - and I own three Planet-X/On-One bikes.

Planet-X seem pretty flexible so if you don't want a triple you can spec it with a double.
 
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Spiderweb

Not So Special One
Location
North Yorkshire
The Planet X Kaffenback looks a good buy at £749. Although it doesn't have hydraulics it has a steel frame, usually the choice for touring and all day comfort.
Is there any reason why you prefer hydraulics to cable discs?
Cable discs still have excellent stopping power, they are less complicated and you can take them on aeroplanes without issue.
 

betty swollocks

large member
What about this?
Claimed weight 0f 9.88kgs.
Appears to tick your boxes apart from it not being carbon.
Or one of the other in Genesis's range, some of which are?
 

Soltydog

Legendary Member
Location
near Hornsea
Touring on a carbon bike, I must be mad. I think the fragility of carbon is overhyped a little bit though.

I've heard some bad things about Planet X's customer service and their carbon frames. I had a friend have his N2A frame crack. But the bad stories propagate better than the good ones. I'm still sure a purpose-built "adventure" carbon road bike would cope with the strains of touring; however, I do keep looking around everywhere for something away from the Planet X brand, but I get no where.
I have a Planet X RT57 carbon road bike. Stayed away from carbon for a long time as I am a 'larger' rider & was worried about the fragility & all the horror stories? Had it about 18 months & maybe done 5k miles with no issues, despite someone crashing into the rear of me last month :blush: I was worried that my frame would be fecked, but apart from a scuff on the rear stay it's fine
I looked all over & nowhere could offer the value that Planet X could, so good luck with finding a comparative good deal elsewhere ^_^
 

e-rider

Banned member
Location
South West
buy a Surly LHT - not the lightest but built to last longer than you!
 

andym

Über Member
Couple of options you might want to think about are the Condor Fratello a steel-framed bike but built to be lighter (as opposed to something like the Surly LHT which is built to be very tough and carry heavy loads). Or I think people have toured successfully with Specialised Tricrosses if you really want aluminium. There are other audax and 'cross' bikes that might well do the job (eg I'm assuming that Betty Ballocks has linked to the Genesis Croix de Fer).

Hydraulic brakes are virtually maintenance free (except of course for changing the discs) but if you do get a problem then it can be difficult to fix on the road (I spent a month touring Corsica with one brake after I packed my bike badly for the outbound flight and the front brake sprung a leak). You can replace the cables on mechanical discs but they are slightly higher maintenance (you might need to compensate for cable stretch on a long tour). Really it's 6 of one and half a dozen of the other.
 
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ozboz

Guru
Location
Richmond ,Surrey
It is difficult choosing , I ummed and rrrr'd for about 3 months ,?came up in the end with a Surly Cross Check , it is spec'd at having a gross kerb weight of 161kgs , giving me a carrying capacity of 75 kg if required , no way ill be pulling that much , 35 at most , so def within its capacity
 
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