Thinking of getting a road bike or Cross

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Jezston

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London
It would be my dream bike too if it weren't for that ghastly orange! Why Genesis, why? Your bikes so pretty, why you make bike me want so bad so ugly?
 
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Zippy

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Looking at that Jake the Snake mentioned earlier, there are only two front chainrings so am I going to be wishing I had a few more (stiffer) gears as I lose out on road speed?

How many chainrings on the CdeF and does it make a difference?

My riding for this bike is likely to be 50:50 road:trail with some potholed dirt trail, woodland paths to cope with and rough muddy canal paths; no technical MTB stuff.

My missus says it is part of our transport outlay so 1K sounds reasonable - sounds reasonable to me!
 

primalgeek

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Location
Livingston
Looking at that Jake the Snake mentioned earlier, there are only two front chainrings so am I going to be wishing I had a few more (stiffer) gears as I lose out on road speed?

How many chainrings on the CdeF and does it make a difference?

My riding for this bike is likely to be 50:50 road:trail with some potholed dirt trail, woodland paths to cope with and rough muddy canal paths; no technical MTB stuff.

My missus says it is part of our transport outlay so 1K sounds reasonable - sounds reasonable to me!

The CdF is a compact 34/50 ... if you are concerned that it won't be geared high enough for you then head over to http://www.sheldonbr...ars/index.html. Shows @ a candence of 90rpm you will be hitting 30mph. More than enough for me, but if you want to go faster then peddle faster :tongue:. IMHO more likely it will be too high geared esp. if you have a few hills (I do, but like the challenge)
 

Jezston

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Location
London
Orangeness is fracking awesome!

Evidence to the contrary:

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Case closed.
 
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Zippy

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The CdF is a compact 34/50 ... if you are concerned that it won't be geared high enough for you then head over to http://www.sheldonbr...ars/index.html. Shows @ a candence of 90rpm you will be hitting 30mph. More than enough for me, but if you want to go faster then peddle faster :tongue:. IMHO more likely it will be too high geared esp. if you have a few hills (I do, but like the challenge)

Sounds good to me. There is one monster hill which I mostly avoid by taking a round route, but mostly on flat or undulating.

I guess if I wanted to take the woodland route then I'd keep my old Specialised Hard Rock and shove some knobblies on it. I wouldn't sell my MTB for sentimental reasons but I like road speed as well and my Specialised don't do it quite as good as I'd like to do it (even with slicks on and close ratio block).
 
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Zippy

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Should have done this before - before getting all excited about the cdeF - non-one in cornwall stocks Genesis :angry: . I can't trust to just ordering one in case the geometry/size is wrong. I could buy on my next trip to the Midlands but we are usually all packed up with no bike space - bike roof rack? :laugh:
 

Jezston

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London
Croix De Fer's are quite hard to get hold of wherever you are - I've never seen one in the flesh.

Fairly certain I went into a bike shop in Taunton and they had Genesis bikes. That's not TOO far from Cornwall is it? ;)
 

Stephenite

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I saw a CdF in a shop in Manchester a few weeks back. They look even better in the flesh, as it were.

On the subject of a triple crankset -

My Kona JtS has 36/46 at the front, and 12/25 at the back. Sometimes, especially over rough ground, i would prefer those lower gears. As far as my mechanical knowledge goes, with the Kona i think it's just a case of slapping a new triple crankset on, and a bit of tuning. But, don't take my word for it ask around. :smile:
 

ammwhite

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I would have thought the Kona Honky Inc (rather than Jake the Snake) was more of a direct comparison to the CdF:
Honky Inc.

Steel frame, disc brakes, slightly chunky tyres (28C) with clearance for mudguards, 105 with Ultegra rear cassette.
 

John the Monkey

Frivolous Cyclist
Location
Crewe

Am salivating. That would be my dream bike. I wanted a Chromoly frame, Alfine Hubbed, disc braked drop and there weren't any in 2010. Settled for Charge Mixer instead which is lovely but I do wonder how much nicer it would be with drops.
Cotic have been doing that as their "Super Commuter" Roadrat for a while now though.

/shrugs.
 

lpjr

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Location
Chorley
I have been commuting quite comfortably on a Specialised Hard Rock with semi-slicks for a good while, with the highest ratio block to keep up a decent speed. Its ok, but I have felt a draw towards a return to a road bike for some time.

A couple of considerations: some of my route is rough cinder and potholes and I may need to ride on muddy trails in the rain for some time. That's why I'm thinking of a Cyclo Cross rather than a complete road bike. A more aero-dynamic MTB sounds ideal and maybe that's a Cross?

Secondly, my budget would be limited to around £800.

Any suggestions and makes/models I could be looking at? I would consider second hand as well to get something higher spec for the budget I have.

Hello. I was in a very similar position to yourself and considered all the above mentioned bikes. I ended up buying the Orbea Mud (MUD) Had it 3 weeks now and love it. Had it on canal paths, grass tracks with no issues at all. And as a commuter it is also very quick on the road, quick for me anyway. It's one of the lightest in that price range and it looks good. Unable to give direct riding comparison to the others but a colleague does have a Tricross Sport and not being bias mine looks way better.
 

MacB

Lover of things that come in 3's
For an all rounder the marrying of disc brakes with hub gears seems spot on:- Cotic Roadrat, On One Pompetamine and Genesis Day One Cross are all doing a build around this idea using the Alfine 8 speed and the Versa integrated brake/shifter. These are all going to be targetted at the £1k CtW scheme price band.

The only negative is, if you want to make it a super commuter by adding dynamo lights, the Cotic doesn't accomodate the Schmidt dyno hubs as the disc tab is on the other side.
 

Jezston

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Cotic have been doing that as their "Super Commuter" Roadrat for a while now though.

/shrugs.

Actually Cotic make the Roadrat frame, there was a shop that does a custom 'Super Commuter' bike based on that frame with alfine hub, drop shifters and discs. They are not a generally available item - only available at the shop (whos name I forget) who make them, and when I asked about them they said it would take 4 months to build!
 
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