Three cheers for the Bull

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User169

Guest
No one seems to have mentioned yet that the bull appears to be aiming at the bloke in the second row sporting an red England jersey.
 

zimzum42

Legendary Member
It's all very well disapproving of it, as long as the people disapproving aren't munching away on intensively-farmed animal products at the same time...


None of this detracts from my main problem with it: the animal is despatched in cruel and drawn out way. This is my problem with it. Couldn't they just hug the bull or something?!


I agree with Caludine on this one - a death is a death. Not a great one for the bull, clearly, but the chances are it hasn't lived it's life in a tiny cage in Suffolk or wherever. How we (Brits) can criticize the Spanish types when we are packing them high over here, I don't know...
 

rich p

ridiculous old lush
Location
Brighton
I can eat a steak that I haven't seen being killed but I can't tread on a slug. Call that hypocrisy or squeamishness but I personally would rather not see an animal taunted, tortured and killed however you wrap it up as Hemingwayesque or Francoesque machismo.
 

theclaud

Openly Marxist
Location
Swansea
I can eat a steak that I haven't seen being killed but I can't tread on a slug. Call that hypocrisy or squeamishness but I personally would rather not see an animal taunted, tortured and killed however you wrap it up as Hemingwayesque or Francoesque machismo.

You'll find it easier if you flounce about in front of it in tight trousers first.

I share your reservations about the machismo, but it's hardly fair to conflate Franco and Hemingway, and whilst plenty of Spaniards shun the bullfight, others are understandably pissed off at attempts to appropriate it for fascist ideologies...
 

darkstar

New Member
I can eat a steak that I haven't seen being killed but I can't tread on a slug. Call that hypocrisy or squeamishness...

this is one thing which bugs me, people can quite happily buy a nice package of random meat from the supermarket to stick in their curry, but given the opportunity, the majority of people would refuse to kill the animal and butcher their own meat. I find it sad to be honest, that everyone is so far removed from the animal.
 

darkstar

New Member
I don't have to grow the veg to eat a beetroot

Hmm well we do in our family. Grow everything on the allotment.
 

martint235

Dog on a bike
Location
Welling
Oh you shouldn't be, it's just a shame that people are nowadays due to upbringing. Can you imagine someone refusing to butcher an animal 100 years ago because they were 'squeamish'?

I must admit to being a bit put off by the smell when the guts come out but that may just be me. Once the guts are out of the way, I'm more than happy getting stuck in.
 

zimzum42

Legendary Member
Most of us are totally removed from the start point of everything we deal with, that's just the way things are now.

We all use the internet, but I doubt many of us could write programs like Office, or build a motherboard...

Getting from A to B on a bike is probably about as 'real' as it gets for any of us, but then I doubt many of us would be able to make a bike. Anyone on here good at making steel tubing or weaving carbon fibre?
 

darkstar

New Member
Most of us are totally removed from the start point of everything we deal with, that's just the way things are now.

We all use the internet, but I doubt many of us could write programs like Office, or build a motherboard...

Getting from A to B on a bike is probably about as 'real' as it gets for any of us, but then I doubt many of us would be able to make a bike. Anyone on here good at making steel tubing or weaving carbon fibre?

Hmmm thats clutching at straws in my view. It's always been the case that consumers don't know how to produce physical good, hence why they are buying. From a cart pulled by a horse to a sword used in battle. When it comes to food however, thats a relatively new phenomenon.

As for cycling being a 'real' as it gets, I'd suggest walking or running?
 
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