Tour Von Deutschland

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Gotte

Active Member
Location
Stockport UK
Just seen this.

So what is your route?

I've toured four times in German, Black Forest, Berlin to Dresden, N Rhein and Mosel, and Munich down to The Bodensee - Koenigsee radweg (with a slight detour to Chiemsee), and onto Salzburg.

I've loved it every time. Germany is THE place for cycling. If you're in the Black forest, check out Freiburg - one of my favourite cycling cities.
 
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ComedyPilot

ComedyPilot

Secret Lemonade Drinker
I am going to be riding along the Rhine.

Now trying to decide which is best: Rotterdam to Lake Constance, then train back to Rotterdam, or train to Lake Constance and ride back to Rotterdam.
 
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ComedyPilot

ComedyPilot

Secret Lemonade Drinker
Stop press:

I now have 3 weeks. Given my Netherlands trip and the daily mileage I am capable of, a round trip is now in the offing - Rotterdam to Lake Constance and back.

Oh, and a brand new Dawes Karakum 2011 will be joining the stable.

Yee haa........................
 

Andy in Sig

Vice President in Exile
In that case you could go over the hills at Freiburg, down the Danube to Ulm then up the river (I think it's the Iller) to Memmingen and then down through the Allgäu to L Konstanz and then zoom off back to Rotterdam via the upper Rhine and Freiburg again.

An alternative would be as above but follow the Danube to Donauwörth, up to the Main and back down the Main to the Rhine at Mainz.
 

zealand

Guru
Location
brighton
Romantic road is nice on the rhihe,make sure you see the the main castle in bavaria sorry cant spell it , but barvaria is very nice
After last year's Ronde Van Nederland, I am now in the initial phase of planning a tour of Germany - a ride along the full length of the Rhine to be precise. I am looking to ride from Lake Constance to Rotterdam.

Getting there will consist of riding to the port in Kingston Upon Hull and then being ferried to Europoort.

After that I will ride to Rotterdam, then get a train to Nijmegen. From there it is a short ride over the border to Kleve where I will get on the train (DB) and travel south to Bavaria.

More to come - keep tuned

Au revoir

CP
 
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ComedyPilot

ComedyPilot

Secret Lemonade Drinker
Tour Von Deutschland is getting closer, and the route is 'almost' sorted.

Ferry to Europoort, train from Rotterdam to Venlo, then ride to Duisburg. From Duisburg, follow the Ruhr to it's source near Winterberg (with a small diversion to see the Moehne dam). Then over the hills to the Eder river (and Eder dam), and follow that to the Fulda river valley. Follow the Fulda south past Fulda, then pick up the Sinn river and follow that to the Main river. At Wertheim take the Romantisches Strasse south to Fuessen and Schloss Neuschwanstein. A rest day in Oberstdorf, then follow the Rhine back to Rotterdam.

Home in time for tea and medals.

Kushty.
 
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ComedyPilot

ComedyPilot

Secret Lemonade Drinker
I'll do a recce for ya then, Rich?

I now have a new tourer in the stable - a Dawes Karakum.

Instantly faster than 'Old Faithful'
 

Haitch

Flim Flormally
Location
Netherlands
So this is where you've been hiding.

We got back from the Ruhrtal Radweg yesterday. Don't know how helpful this will be because we went in the opposite direction and took five days religiously following the signs. Assuming you've got or seen the bikeline book:

The route is a mixture of bike paths, quiet lanes, compacted earth, loose chippings, crushed shells, all designed to keep you away from traffic. Not the fastest or most direct route but very pleasant cycling. The bike paths are usually shared pavements, which can be a bit of an irritant. Where you ride on the roads themselves, drivers are patient and courteous. We took five days but you could do it in two if you left the campsite before 12 noon.

The first 20 km or so from Duisburg to Mülheim is built up but after that it's all countryside. The stretch to Herdecke is flat, the Ruhr being contained by locks and dams so that it looks more like a series of lakes than a river. This stretch is very popular and we were told not to try it in the weekend, when half the middle-aged male population dons lycra in search of bier und currywurst. Schwerte to Bestwig has a couple of hills (15%-16%) but nothing too long. Olsberg to Winterberg is lumpy and rises steadily.

Signposting is excellent, you could do it without a map. The signs take you around and past all the towns and villages, not through them. If you want to visit a particular place, search for bier und currywurst or take a photo of the fachwerk houses, plan ahead because you will pass many places without realising it.

There are some roadworks near Mülheim and you will be diverted. The temporary signage is not all that it could be. The dam over the river at Werden is closed to cyclists until October. There is a bridge about 1 km before it that will take you into and through the town. That's the end of the traffic news.

Holiday season proper hasn't started yet in Germany and some bars, hotels &c were closed. Most villages and quite a few towns were deserted by about 8 o'clock (especially in the east). Some campsites were also closed, including the one at Delecke on the Möhnesee. The campsites might determine how far you go each day. We stayed in Winterberg, Hennesee (south of Meschede), Süd Oefer (Möhnesee), Schwerte, east of Werden and in a hotel in Ruhrort. Without exception they were all spotless, well maintained and had lashings of hot water. On-site shopping and eating facilities were poor, though. The cost for a night's stay was usually between 23 and 28 euros for three people and two tents. The only exception was Schwerte: €5 per person at the canoe club (recognisable by the canoeing gates in the river as you enter the town). Ask at the clubhouse and they'll let you pitch a tent on the grounds and leave the clubhouse doors open for you!

If you are going to Möhnesee, be aware that it is a long, steep slog from the Ruhrtal Radweg through the forest. Going across the dam itself will add another 10 km before you get to a campsite (NB the dam itself is only about ½ km long). Unless you want to take a very roundabout route back to the Ruhr, you have to follow the same path back the next day. Having said that, we thought Möhnesee was a highpoint – if only because we saw Barcelona beat Real Madrid in a hotel there that had no German wine!

I could insert some guff here about Germans being exceedingly helpful, friendly, chatty and patient folks but you're probably waiting for some news. Currywurst start at €2.20 mit brötchen and half a litre of beer costs about €3 in a bar or 80 cents in a supermarket.



 
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ComedyPilot

ComedyPilot

Secret Lemonade Drinker
Thank you very much for the in-depth report, I will have a basic map, and sort of know the area anyway - I lived in Dortmund for 4 years. I am an early riser (cough) and am usually breakfasted up, washed, tent down, panniers packed and on the road by 7am. Once again, like last years Ronde van Nederland, this trip is about fitness for me and mile munching is my aim. So 2 days will be enough to do it. Also, after the Moehnesee, I was going to ride to Arnsberg and pick up the Ruhr again, instead of back tracking.

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Got any pictures?

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(wink)
 

Haitch

Flim Flormally
Location
Netherlands
Got any pictures?


Erm, the campsite at Schwerte:

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Haitch

Flim Flormally
Location
Netherlands
Oh, and as you're going to Arnsberg you might be interested in this exhibition at the Sauerland Museum on the main street:


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PS
Avoid Bergstrasse. It's not called that for nothing.
 
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ComedyPilot

ComedyPilot

Secret Lemonade Drinker
1 week in, brief update. Rode from Europoort to rotterdam, train to Venlo, then rode to duisburg to join the ruhr. rode the ruhr in 2 days, then down the Eder in 1 (hard work) did the Fulda in 1 and got a train to Wurzburg from Fulda. Rode the Romantic street Wurzburg to Augsburg in 2 days. Train from Augsburg to Oberstdorf, then 2 days off, and then the Rhine to do. a few mechanicals, 1 p*ncture, and lots of big hills - do not go under the assumption that travelling downstream will mean down hill.

Ciao
 
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