Tragedy - family friend death

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Awful. My heart goes out to you and his family.
 

CopperBrompton

Bicycle: a means of transport between cake-stops
Location
London
Condolences, MJ.

I've been to the scene and, whilst I'm no road traffic incident expert, it is pretty clear what happened. The police will have to work out why. I'm not sure what, if anything, I can safely say here
Best to say nothing. The first thing road collision investigators learn is never to jump to conclusions, as it's often the case that what 'obviously' happened isn't in fact what happened. The facts will be known in due course, and there's nothing to be gained by speculative posts in the meantime.
 

jdtate101

Ex-Fatman
That's the stretch that goes past the cemetery right? If so, then I've gone that way myself a few times and it never struck me as a dangerous road in any way. Any age to be killed in an RTA is a tragedy, but 20 yrs old is just such a devastating waste of a life. I hope the book gets thrown at the driver but I'll not hold my breath, as justice for cyclists is woeful in this country. Awful.
 
OP
OP
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mumbo jumbo

Senior Member
Location
Birmingham
Condolences, MJ.


Best to say nothing. The first thing road collision investigators learn is never to jump to conclusions, as it's often the case that what 'obviously' happened isn't in fact what happened. The facts will be known in due course, and there's nothing to be gained by speculative posts in the meantime.
I've made a video of the incident site and spoken to one or two of the residents. The video is "private" (in YouTube parlance) and I have no intention of publishing it unless / until I get legal advice that I can safely do so. That may not be until after any trial. It's immensely frustrating. The vid only shows what anyone who visits the site could see for themselves. I do not make any comment about the driver in the vid, just say what I see. I admit I can't know all the facts but I have drawn some "obvious" conclusions. Time will tell if I'm right.
 
OP
OP
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mumbo jumbo

Senior Member
Location
Birmingham
That's the stretch that goes past the cemetery right? If so, then I've gone that way myself a few times and it never struck me as a dangerous road in any way. Any age to be killed in an RTA is a tragedy, but 20 yrs old is just such a devastating waste of a life. I hope the book gets thrown at the driver but I'll not hold my breath, as justice for cyclists is woeful in this country. Awful.
Yep - right by the cemetery. Not a dangerous road in the slightest. The approach to the incident site is perfectly straight. Apart from being part of the support network for the family, my main concern now is the legal side of things - the inquest, the police investigation, the trial and sentencing. I'm in touch with Cyclists Defence League, British Cycling etc to make sure we have the right people on the job.
 

Plax

Guru
Location
Wales
If it was right by the cemetry do you think the driver was in some way distracted? No excuse I know but I've had an incident when a woman crashed into me coming out of a cemetry exit. She basically went to turn right, clearly never saw me until it was too late, panicked, stomped on the accelerator instead on the brake (she admitted to this straight away) and crashed straight into the side of me. Knocked me clean into the other lane. Would have been really nasty if I was on my bike at the time and not in my car. This was on a road which really I wouldn't rate as dangerous.

Anyways condolances to yourself and friends of the young man concerned.
 
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