Trains and Planes in the UK in May/June

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Mike_P

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Location
Harrogate
I wouldn't use that if you paid me. Horrible airport, miles from anywhere, no public transport and extortionate charges to be picked up at the terminal.

Eh? Buses to Leeds, Bradford, Otley and Harrogate
https://www.transdevbus.co.uk/flyer/
Main problem with it is pretty elevated and hence gets the wind more than others. If you like seeing planes land sidewards is the place to go but quite often as a result planes divert elsewhere.
 
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There's delays all the time due to TRU, signalling failure and fatalities.
You best bet is keeping checking with National Rail enquiries and they have all the upto date train information, but its for 3 months in advance only. You could get the coach or rail replacement bus if there's one on.
 

wiggydiggy

Legendary Member
Its the nearest airport unless you use Humberside and flying to there is expensive. We have had no problems with public transport at Leeds/ Bradford.

Eh buses to Leeds, Bradford, Otley and Harrogate
https://www.transdevbus.co.uk/flyer/
Main problem with it is pretty elevated and hence gets the wind more than others. If lije seeing planes land sidewards is the place to go but quite often as a result planes divert elsewhere.

Theres an airport bus to and from Leeds.

I'm afraid even with 3 of you I won't be persuaded! I will say I have no issue with the windy conditions that sometimes prevail and give bumpy landings, I've flown several times and the flight itself has always been the best bit, departing especially as I know I'm leaving.

No every time I've been I've had issues, either with the transport, the facilities (or lack of), long queue times, disorganised cramped interiors and just a general "that'll do" attitude.

I'd rather travel further to Manchester now and fly from there.
 

blackrat

Senior Member
Trains in the UK may be horrible compared with - say - anywhere in Europe, but at least there are trains. I suspect we get spoilt when we have something that may not be the best that it can be and should be. We turn on a tap in the kitchen because we are conditioned to expect clean water to come out, but in many parts of the world they would welcome even a single tap within a mile of their hovel.
Sorry, that sounds a bit preachy! :eek:
In the US, there are very few passenger trains which is why there are billions of miles of twenty lane highways running through cities and spewing out carbon by the 'train' loads. 🚙🛻🚌🚕🚐🚚🚛🚜All thanks to Ford who wanted everyone to buy his cars and the government to build interstate highways and neglect passenger trains. There are lots of freight lines though, and airports.
 
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blackrat

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Andy, I can't help with the planes and trains, but I wanted to check if you are aware of the new immigration rules into the U.K. for dual nationals? I only discovered them a few weeks ago and have had to cancel an upcoming trip to the U.K. in Easter because my children won't be able to comply.

Essentially if you are British or British by descent, dual national, (Which my children are) you have to travel on a British Passport to enter the U.K. British people are barred from applying for an ETA and the only way you can enter on a German passport, is by applying for a Certificate of Entitlement that will cost £589.

Sorry if you already know this, but I have a lot of Dual National colleague's , who like me, were completely unaware of all of this until a couple of weeks ago and it's caused a lot of upset.

Yes, I came across this only today. My two sons are dual nationals but only travel on a US passport, so they would be affected.
I only travel on a UK passport, so I'm home free. 🇬🇧🇬🇧
 

chriswoody

Legendary Member
Location
Northern Germany
Yes, I came across this only today. My two sons are dual nationals but only travel on a US passport, so they would be affected.
I only travel on a UK passport, so I'm home free. 🇬🇧🇬🇧

My young son was born here in Germany and I've never made any attempt to register him as British, yet the British government have automatically conferred British citizenship on him because of me. So now we face the problem that the only way he can travel into Britain on his perfectly valid German Passport is to spend £589 on a certificate of entitlement, or we can go through the hassle and expense of obtaining a British Passport. My German wife meanwhile, can easily travel on her German passport and £16 ETA visa. I'm absolutely livid with the British government for this grossly unfair, unnecessary and ill communicated travesty.

Anyway apologies for the off-topic post, maybe it will be useful for other dual nationals.
 
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Andy in Germany

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I'm absolutely livid with the British government for this grossly unfair, unnecessary and ill communicated travesty.

Let's face it, they've got form for that sort of behaviour.
 

blackrat

Senior Member
My young son was born here in Germany and I've never made any attempt to register him as British, yet the British government have automatically conferred British citizenship on him because of me. So now we face the problem that the only way he can travel into Britain on his perfectly valid German Passport is to spend £589 on a certificate of entitlement, or we can go through the hassle and expense of obtaining a British Passport. My German wife meanwhile, can easily travel on her German passport and £16 ETA visa. I'm absolutely livid with the British government for this grossly unfair, unnecessary and ill communicated travesty.

Anyway apologies for the off-topic post, maybe it will be useful for other dual nationals.

Odd! Until I registered my sons as British they would have remained sole American citizens. Could it be because you are in Europe?
 

chriswoody

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Location
Northern Germany
Odd! Until I registered my sons as British they would have remained sole American citizens. Could it be because you are in Europe?

It has nothing to do with my me being in Europe as far as I can tell, instead it all hinges on when he was born. According to the British government's website:

"You’re automatically a British citizen if you were born outside the UK and all of the following apply:

  • you were born on or after 1 July 2006
  • your mother or father was a British citizen when you were born
  • your British parent could pass on their citizenship to you"
All of the above apply to me, so from this I'm making the assumption that my son is automatically British. The problem is there is no one to actually speak to and ask, it's all online and hopefully I'm interpreting the information on the website correctly.
 

blackrat

Senior Member
It has nothing to do with my me being in Europe as far as I can tell, instead it all hinges on when he was born. According to the British government's website:

"You’re automatically a British citizen if you were born outside the UK and all of the following apply:

  • you were born on or after 1 July 2006
  • your mother or father was a British citizen when you were born
  • your British parent could pass on their citizenship to you"
All of the above apply to me, so from this I'm making the assumption that my son is automatically British. The problem is there is no one to actually speak to and ask, it's all online and hopefully I'm interpreting the information on the website correctly.

Well, that's new(ish). So under those conditions if your children born overseas are now 20 or less years old, they are automatically British?
From my perspective I would say that's a good thing and indicates some degree of being proud to be British, but with the new rule, and for you, maybe not?
Maybe your son would like the idea of having two passports?
 
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