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PaulSB

Squire
I might try the talc trick. I have talc in the bathroom that I never use!
Don't talc the tyre, talc the tube.
  • unpack your spare tube(s)
  • apply plenty of talc
  • wrap the tube in sheet of newspaper
  • wrap with cling film/pop in a plastic bag
  • for roadside repair you now have talc ready for tube and tyre. It makes changing a tube far easier
I thought this was standard practice. Perhaps not?
 

ColinJ

Puzzle game procrastinator!
I just cut up an old tube and discovered that is talced on the inside!! I don't know what that is for?
 

Ajax Bay

Guru
Location
East Devon
Don't talc the tyre, talc the tube.

Would be great to hear why, Paul.
If you think it is "standard practice" offer us a link from the other person in the world who's shared that.
Talc helps that last bit of bead get over the rim edge: really this is mostly for a new tyre, and only needed on the last 30 degree arc.
How is talc on a tube beneficial? The tube will go where it's put. Might need a poke at the end to make sure it's not interfering with the final thumb push.
 

albion

Guru
The advent of ebikes means a fair few tyres are now near bulletproof.
I went from having a puncture every few weeks and replacing the tyre at 3km to having 2 slow punctures in the 10km of e-tyre lifespan.
Bliss. None tubeless, obviously
 
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C R

Guru
Location
Worcester
The advent of ebikes means a fair few tyres are now near bulletproof.
I went from having a puncture every few weeks and replacing the tyre at 3km to having 2 slow punctures in the 10km of e-tyre lifespan.
Bliss. None tubeless, obviously

I would a tyre would last more than 10km, and definitely more than 3km. ;)
 

Ajax Bay

Guru
Location
East Devon
The advent of ebikes means a fair few tyres are now near bulletproof.
I went from having a puncture every few weeks and replacing the tyre at 3km to having 2 slow punctures in the 10km of e-tyre lifespan.
Bliss. None tubeless, obviously

I would a tyre would last more than 10km, and definitely more than 3km. ;)
Suggest we need to know what the apples taste like and what species is being compeared.
 
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PaulSB

Squire
Would be great to hear why, Paul.
If you think it is "standard practice" offer us a link from the other person in the world who's shared that.
Talc helps that last bit of bead get over the rim edge: really this is mostly for a new tyre, and only needed on the last 30 degree arc.
How is talc on a tube beneficial? The tube will go where it's put. Might need a poke at the end to make sure it's not interfering with the final thumb push.

An unnecessary remark which I don't intend to dignify with a link or citation. It's a handy cycling tip, nothing more important. In hindsight "standard" was a poor choice but I certainly think "common practice" is appropriate. It's something I've done for 25 or more years. It's common practice most of my regular cycling buddies and makes roadside repairs much easier.

Talc can make tight fitting items easier to fit, "surgical" style** gloves are often talced by the manufacturer. Tyres are easier to get on to a wheel if talc is applied to them. The logic behind talcing a spare tube is this. When the tube is inserted into the tyre some of the talc transfers on to the tyre. It also gets on the rider's hands and transfers to the tyre. One then has a talced tyre which is much easier to slip on than one which hasn't been talced. Probably a bit messy with tubeless. The alternative is to carry some Johnson's baby powder in one's kit.

** for clarity I say "style" as I imagine actual surgical gloves may not use talc. Possibly a safety issue?
 

Ajax Bay

Guru
Location
East Devon
An unnecessary remark ["If you think it is "standard practice" offer us a link"] which I don't intend to dignify with a link or citation.
So in your cycling circles, riders talc their spare tubes, wrap them in newspaper, then put inside a plastic bag.
And carry the package in their pannier?
Anyone else on here adopt this 'common practice'?
 

Ajax Bay

Guru
Location
East Devon
I went looking for 'talcing tubes' since @PaulSB prefers not to offer "a link or citation" - 'cos maybe it's a 'thing'.
Here we are:
https://www.bicyclerollingresistance.com/specials/inner-tubes-talcum-powder-test
"Plus, all that talc makes the tubes more difficult to patch."
Talcum Powder for Tubes and Tires by Jobst Brandt
"The reason tubes have talcum powder inside is that in manufacture, they become hot enough that, otherwise, they could become inseparably stuck when folded. That is why most butyl tubes have talcum inside."
And finally a couple of disciples:
"I use a zip lock bag to baby powder all my tubes prior to installation. ..........Works great." (Comment: Doesn't say what it works great at.)
and "Same here. It's a cycling tradition for tubes to get talc and I'm not about to risk breaking tradition."
 
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Ian H

Ancient randonneur
Talcum powder allows the tube to inflate within the tyre without sticking and thus creasing or twisting.
 

C R

Guru
Location
Worcester
Talcum powder allows the tube to inflate within the tyre without sticking and thus creasing or twisting.

I understood that this particular discussion was between putting the talc inside the tyre or outside the tube, the endianness of talcing if you like.
 
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