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szygy

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Actually Nitromors is (or used to be when I last bought it) a mix of methanol and dichloromethane, it quite harmless to your lungs and skin, but will rot your brain, nervous system and liver.
As for too jelly like to squirt from a water pistol, I though it been agreed that vengence is not such a good idea (well maybe a good idea, but not good in practice)?
I guess some peoples commuting kits consists of:

paint stripper, chain or hammer, spare (different coloured) helmet, spare jacket, sunglasses and false beard, spare inner tube etc.

I think even taking these precautions I doubt it will be long before there are unhappy vengence filled motorists on all the routes to and from work.
 

Rhythm Thief

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I used to enjoy driving my ex's pale pink Citroen 2CV. At the time I had long hair, so from the back I was easily mistaken for a female. From the front, it became apparent that I'm a well built 6 footer with stubble and that I look a bit like a Hell's Angel. The number of people who pulled up alongside me at traffic lights ready to tick me off for some perceived breach of motoring ettiquette, only to be met with a glare from a scary looking bloke ... it soon put them off trying anything. The irony is, I'm a big softy at heart.:biggrin:
 

downfader

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I used to enjoy driving my ex's pale pink Citroen 2CV. At the time I had long hair, so from the back I was easily mistaken for a female. From the front, it became apparent that I'm a well built 6 footer with stubble and that I look a bit like a Hell's Angel. The number of people who pulled up alongside me at traffic lights ready to tick me off for some perceived breach of motoring ettiquette, only to be met with a glare from a scary looking bloke ... it soon put them off trying anything. The irony is, I'm a big softy at heart.:biggrin:


My uncle has long hair, I think he said that a car followed him down a d/carriageway and started flashing its lights. He pulled up at a red and the car behind pulls up parallel and the guy opposite has the window open and shouts somehting about "bl**j**s" with a big grin on his face until he realised it was a fella.

I've told you all about that van driver a year back, tailgaiting me and staring at my arse until he realised I was a fella. He went pale. :biggrin:
 
Actually Nitromors is (or used to be when I last bought it) a mix of methanol and dichloromethane, it quite harmless to your lungs and skin, but will rot your brain, nervous system and liver. "

Its not, definitely NOT, harmless to the skin, even though it has the attributes you mention re CNS etc. It's particularly nasty when occluded: i.e. trapped inside pervious gloves. "Breakthrough time for neoprene is less than 5 minutes" It's also reactive. It doesn't respond benignly to getting hot: phosgene. Interference with lungs, narcotic effects, etc etc. See MSDS before pronouncing.
 
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szygy

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I think the temp at which DCM will break down into phosgene would be pretty bad for your skin anyway. I do use DCM everyday so know the MSDS, and quite harmless is probably due to my working with cyanide and other nasties. Its not quite harmless, but is pretty tame really.
As for glove penetration times, I also use DMF, and that goes through nitrile as fast as you can get off, and is not nice at all when it gets inside you.
One thing I do know, I would NEVER use nitromors inside a house (for example on furniture) as the fumes will be produced for months afterwards.
If you like reading MSDS sheets, look at the one for water.
 

Vikeonabike

CC Neighbourhood Police Constable
I thought I'd share a story from about 4 years ago as some might find it amusing, I know I did.

My flat mate of the time was a chef with an occasional habit of becoming very paranoid (he was sectioned a couple of times), he was working at a pub on the other side of Norwich and used to get to work and back on his mountain bike. One night he was cycling back from work at about 11pm when a boy racer overtakes dangerously close. So my flatmate shouts come objection, at which point the car screeches to a halt, reverses a few yards before the driver gets out. He screams 'you f***ing ****, I am going to kick your head in' (or words to that effect).
My mate got off his bike and produced from the back of his trousers; a paint splattered 16 oz claw hammer. BTW he is about 6ft 3 with wide staring eyes and shoulder-length hair. This had the desired effect as apparently the angry chaps expression remained frozen in mid shout as he spun round and dived back into his car and wheelspins off into the night.
My mate came home telling the story as proof he was not paranoid, and carrying a hammer was a reasonable thing to do.

Anyway I guess that is one guy who will be more careful about trying to attack strangers in future.


The sad working proffessional in me says....hey that's an offensive weapon! :angry: It also says "and produced from the back of his a trousers; a large knife from a roll of chefs knives" . Which wouldn't be an offensive weapon, because that is immediate arming and he has a good reason tor carrying them!:rolleyes:
 
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szygy

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I think the sad working professional in you is quite correct. My mate did infact have a roll of knives in his panniers also, but did not want to use these as weapons because, "if I stab some c**t in the guts I dont want to get s**t on my knives." Scary.
To be honest though, I doubt anything would have had the psychological impact (forgive the pun) of that hammer. Its appearance meant it would have looked very at home in a clear bag with the word 'evidence' on it. That is sure how I felt coming home and finding my mate sitting in the dark, in the living room, with the hammer and a wild look in his eyes.
Just as an opinion, if one were to carry a large rubber, but realistic looking bowie knife, would that be an offence in your opinion? I have used them in martial arts training (i've done wing chun for years) and they look pretty good. I guess the local armed respoonse unit might not appreciate it being waved around though.
 
I think the temp at which DCM will break down into phosgene would be pretty bad for your skin anyway. I do use DCM everyday so know the MSDS, and quite harmless is probably due to my working with cyanide and other nasties. Its not quite harmless, but is pretty tame really.
As for glove penetration times, I also use DMF, and that goes through nitrile as fast as you can get off, and is not nice at all when it gets inside you.
One thing I do know, I would NEVER use nitromors inside a house (for example on furniture) as the fumes will be produced for months afterwards.
If you like reading MSDS sheets, look at the one for water.

Obviously the scale of usage will be a major factor. DCM has been used for industrial scale stripping pine doors etc in heated dip tanks. Tame it is not, but on a domestic scale its not such a big deal, I agree.
 
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szygy

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I have a professional slackness about solvents in the lab, but I for sure would not want to have a door that had been soaked in DCM in my house!
One day I came home and my missus was was about to strip the stairs with nitromors; I nearly had a fit. I maintain that wood will fume off solvents for many months at room temperature.
Ethanol would be an alternative but the tax man doesn't like it.
 

taxing

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My boyfriend was using Nitro Mors to strip his kitchen cupboards and apparently my skin is mega sensitive to it, or he has the skin of an elephant. He's so bloody messy he'd drip it everywhere and not clean it up, then later I'd go get something from the kitchen and two minutes later feel my hand burning. I'd look down and there'd be a red circle that didn't stop burning even after I'd washed it, the red circles took days to fade and the stinging lasted all night. Even after I refused to touch anything in the kitchen I stood in a blob of it and the same happened.
 

downfader

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My boyfriend was using Nitro Mors to strip his kitchen cupboards and apparently my skin is mega sensitive to it, or he has the skin of an elephant. He's so bloody messy he'd drip it everywhere and not clean it up, then later I'd go get something from the kitchen and two minutes later feel my hand burning. I'd look down and there'd be a red circle that didn't stop burning even after I'd washed it, the red circles took days to fade and the stinging lasted all night. Even after I refused to touch anything in the kitchen I stood in a blob of it and the same happened.

You need to run the skin under warm water tap for about 10-20 minutes with chemical burns and then go and see a doctor. Not sure if thats the done thing with nitromors but I have gotten sulphuric acid on me skin before (chem lab at college).

I handle various dangerous cleaning chemicals as part of my job so I've seen people rinse off what they think is a trivial spillage to their skin and then suffer a burn as a result.:wacko:
 

Bluescouse1

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I have used nitromors many times in the past
admitidley not for around 3 years
but did find if it came into contact with my skin
it did burn, although not straight away
there was a little delay before the burning sensation started
 
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My uncle has always driven old landrovers, He's had a few people cut him up really badly
his bumper has been straightened with a hammer a few times.
 
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