What came today - Fly 6 Light and Camera

[gaz]

How bright does it need to be?

A light is a light, how bright does it ever need to be?

I mentioned the Knog Strobe, a £10 light that is barely visible during the day and not something that stands out at night, as a light that is brighter than the one with this camera. It's marketed as having a highly visible light when it does not have one.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

A light is a light, how bright does it ever need to be?

I mentioned the Knog Strobe, a £10 light that is barely visible during the day and not something that stands out at night, as a light that is brighter than the one with this camera. It's marketed as having a highly visible light when it does not have one.

Does you back light need to stand out at night?

 

[Sore Thumb]

How bright do you need your rear LED's to be for Pete's sake?

If they are looking they will see you. If they aren't they won't; no matter how many lumens light up your 'arris.

That's not particularly true.

If you look directly at a object you see. What you might not see, is what is in your peripheral vision. What makes a person take notice of what is in their peripheral vision is something eye catching. This is why emergency vehicles have flashing lights, it makes take notice of what in your peripheral vision.

So the more lights and flashing lights will hopefully get the driver that lacks attention and does not look to take notice.

 

[gaz]

Does you back light need to stand out at night?

depends on your scenario.

Arguably I would say that if you are cycling down dark country lanes, you probably need less light, as it will stand out more against the background.
But that means that in the city/ town environment where there is lots of light coming from other road users, street lamps, shop windows etc.. you need a brighter light to stand out from the crowd, especially if cycling in traffic.

 

[Sore Thumb]

Does you back light need to stand out at night?

Enough so I reduce my risk of getting killed.

As some cyclists are happy with a cheap single led that the batteries are just about to die, then carry on.

 

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This is the Fly 6 against my contour roam for a comparison.

 

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[Schneil]

depends on your scenario.

Arguably I would say that if you are cycling down dark country lanes, you probably need less light, as it will stand out more against the background.
But that means that in the city/ town environment where there is lots of light coming from other road users, street lamps, shop windows etc.. you need a brighter light to stand out from the crowd, especially if cycling in traffic.

Seconded on this. Back in the Winter waiting to turn right out of a side street onto a busy road.
I did not see a cyclist coming towards me, against the bright headlights of the cars. I only saw him once he had gone past me! Why? - crappy lights.
So I'd rather have a nice bright red flasher as I want to be seen.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

Enough so I reduce my risk of getting killed.

As some cyclists are happy with a cheap single led that the batteries are just about to die, then carry on.

How much is enough?

 

[GrumpyGregry]

That's not particularly true.

If you look directly at a object you see. What you might not see, is what is in your peripheral vision. What makes a person take notice of what is in their peripheral vision is something eye catching. This is why emergency vehicles have flashing lights, it makes take notice of what in your peripheral vision.

So the more lights and flashing lights will hopefully get the driver that lacks attention and does not look to take notice.

You sure about all or any of that....? Cos it reads like a collection of urban mythology, "It's common sense" and hope founded on ignorance.

 

[BSRU]

How much is enough?

When your riding towards bright sunshine as much as possible.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

When your riding towards bright sunshine as much as possible.

what % of the time do we do that, and do we turn the lights off again afterwards, and have you any data other than anecdote that it makes any difference?

 

[BSRU]

what % of the time do we do that, and do we turn the lights off again afterwards, and have you any data other than anecdote that it makes any difference?

Quite alot this time of year as I ride very early in the morning, no need to turn it down in daylight, no brighter than a modern car brake light. I do not use it at night.
Only evidence I have is from a couple of drivers who have told me the light was clearly visible despite the low bright sun right in front of me.

 

[gaz]

How much is enough?

Do you actually have a point to make? Or are you just a broken record?

 

[GrumpyGregry]

Do you actually have a point to make? Or are you just a broken record?

I've a genuine interest in knowing what people think is a bright enough rear light... and why? If that yanks your chain...

BSRU has at least started to express a rationale, and set a benchmark, though if his definition of bright enough is no brighter than a modern car brake light that would be "not that bright then" compared with the eyeball searing lights seemingly preferred by most cyclists.