Went to LBS and took a look at CDF and others. To be honest it was a bike more than capable of doing more than I would ever want, but I realised I'm no spring chicken and after years of playing rugby my body is tired and battered and dreams of hammering through a Lakeland Monster or racking up 100 mile rides are distant dreams. I don't need a bike like that or the Whyte for nothing more than a gravel canal path once a blue moon. Leaving the biking to the real enthusiasts. Thanks to the few who gave there advice I appreciated it and happy cycling