What learning chance do you give animals / pest's to do ?

[KneesUp]

I find the OP's post interesting. It is apparently ok to drown woodlice, but how is our moral compass aligned on this? For example, I would image that most posters would object to:

I teach my neighbours dog to keep out of our garden by kicking it up the backside (even if it worked, unlike the OP)

but not many would object to

I teach slugs to keep out of my kitchen by putting salt down (even though it probably wouldn't work)

Why do we get upset about hurting some animals, and not care about killing others?

 

[Vantage]

It's a bit like some people have faces that scream out to be slapped. Some animals/bugs just need to die in the most horrible and excrutiatingly painful way possible.

 

[biggs682]

Why do we get upset about hurting some animals, and not care about killing others?

Very true

 

[Welsh wheels]

I find the OP's post interesting. It is apparently ok to drown woodlice, but how is our moral compass aligned on this? For example, I would image that most posters would object to:

I teach my neighbours dog to keep out of our garden by kicking it up the backside (even if it worked, unlike the OP)

but not many would object to

I teach slugs to keep out of my kitchen by putting salt down (even though it probably wouldn't work)

Why do we get upset about hurting some animals, and not care about killing others?

Rightly or wrongly, I think we assign value to animals based on their usefulness to us and how cute or entertaining we find them.

 

[Welsh wheels]

It's a bit like some people have faces that scream out to be slapped. Some animals/bugs just need to die in the most horrible and excrutiatingly painful way possible.

Like wasps. I don't mind making wasps suffer. Horrible things.

 

[Welsh wheels]

I can understand that a person might want to kill a wasp, if they felt threatened by it say. Cause it to suffer through?

Joking mostly. They ruin many a summer day though.

 

[KneesUp]

Rightly or wrongly, I think we assign value to animals based on their usefulness to us and how cute or entertaining we find them.

Next doors dog is a pain. It digs up my garden and yaps. Toilet bowl time.

 

[vickster]

Joking mostly. They ruin many a summer day though.

For you. I'm sure they're having a lovely time eating BBQ food and drinking beer or sweet fizzy drinks

I try not to kill anything deliberately, except perhaps weeds on the driveway. I have rescued countless mice from my cat at 4am even!

 

[Spinney]

midges
sadly, all I seem to teach them is that I taste good...

 

[gbb]

I've tried, unsuccessfully, to train my dog to duck when i throw my socks at him.

He does'nt even flinch until they hit him square on the head.

No problem in itself really, but if he can't manage a pair of socks....what's he going to do if something really hard comes flying at him ? (not thrown by me of course)

 

[User269]

Biggs wins today's Drago's Chuckle of the Day Award. Good moves, Sir. View attachment 343548

Note to self; Expect to die horribly if you call out Search & Rescue team.

 

[SpokeyDokey]

I can understand that a person might want to kill a wasp, if they felt threatened by it say. Cause it to suffer through?

With you on this.

How anyone can delight in causing suffering is beyond me.

And as for drowning woodlice in a toilet, words fail me - they are about as harmless a creature as you can get.

 

[SpokeyDokey]

I've tried, unsuccessfully, to train my dog to duck when i throw my socks at him.

He does'nt even flinch until they hit him square on the head.

No problem in itself really, but if he can't manage a pair of socks....what's he going to do if something really hard comes flying at him ? (not thrown by me of course)

Maybe he is smarter than you think and can recognise the difference between a pair of airborne socks and eg a frozen solid grapefruit?

Mutley also has more decision time to think it through vs the average human as their reflexes are in the order of 7 times quicker. So I wouldn't worry too much.

 

[smutchin]

I've tried, unsuccessfully, to train my dog to duck

I've not had much luck training my duck to go dogging either.

 

[smutchin]

And as for drowning woodlice in a toilet, words fail me

Woodlice have gills - they can breathe underwater (or at least survive underwater for an hour or so).

They're related to crabs, dontcha know.