What sander for home use?

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lazybloke

Ginger biscuits and cheddar
Location
Leafy Surrey
The vibration of some electric sanders is horrible on the hands (and in extreme cases causes circulatory issues).

Might be worth considering chemical and/or hot air paint stripping options to minimise the amount of sanding.

Hot air guns - be aware of fumes, and try not to set fire to your woodwork!
 

Dogtrousers

Kilometre nibbler
I have a couple of sanders, one I like, one I hate.

The one I like is a triangular detail sander that uses hook-and-loop (velcro-esque) to attach the sanding sheets. It's made by a known brand (forget which). Yes it's a bit small and yes the sheets are a bit pricey but it's nice to use. :smile:

The one I hate is a rectangular orbital one. Wickes own brand cheapo. It has those spring clips to hold the paper. The paper is never quite the right size. The clips are horribly fiddly. The paper always ends up tearing at the clips. :sad:
 

si_c

Guru
Location
Wirral
The vibration of some electric sanders is horrible on the hands (and in extreme cases causes circulatory issues).

Might be worth considering chemical and/or hot air paint stripping options to minimise the amount of sanding.

Hot air guns - be aware of fumes, and try not to set fire to your woodwork!

Actually this would probably be my choice for lots of door frames - with a scraper you can get into all the detail areas and it will properly remove all of the paint. Once done you can then use any needed filler for dents and give it a full sand down by hand quickly to remove burrs and high spots. Then it'll be ready to paint.
 

presta

Legendary Member
Speed is not an issue, as I'll be working slowly when the gardening season is over, doing the rooms one by one.
Longevity of the tool is also not an issue, because I won't use it after this project.
Cordless is not essential, although I already have 4 X 2.5A batteries for the Bosh 18V system.
Not too heavy and easy to handle is essential, my hands are not very strong.
The availability of reasonable priced sandpaper suitable for the machine is essential, I'll be using loads!
What would you recommend, please?

These:

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Psamathe

Senior Member
One "fristration" I have with hand sanding is that I lose the ability to unlick my computer devices using my fingerprint. Recovers after a week of so but I end-up having to type in password the whole time.

But, having just done entire house windows and external doors by hand this time for sanding I wore a pair of soft thinis rubber glover (thicker than nitrile but soft and flexible). Thought they'd last 10 mins with sanding but they lasted the entire job and I kept my fingerprints and were no restriction or inconvenience. worked well.

Ian
 

palinurus

Velo, boulot, dodo
Location
Watford
If you're using a mains corded one, don't use a metal hose pipe or tube. I did that and got a nasty shock. Don't know if it was electric jumping out from the brushes, or a short somewhere. But plastic pipe only. May also have been static build up but it was a constant shock rather than a quick zap

I've had that when vacuuming up metal powder at work with an industrial vacuum, not unusual with dusts and powders. Static can build on plastic parts too!
 

T4tomo

Legendary Member
Hi all!
I'm looking to buy a sander.
I need to sand 10 door frames (not the doors, I'm getting new ones) and 3 rooms worth of skirting.
I'm going to repaint, no need to strip the wood bare.
I would like a tool with an efficient dust extractor.
Speed is not an issue, as I'll be working slowly when the gardening season is over, doing the rooms one by one.
Longevity of the tool is also not an issue, because I won't use it after this project.
Cordless is not essential, although I already have 4 X 2.5A batteries for the Bosh 18V system.
Not too heavy and easy to handle is essential, my hands are not very strong.
The availability of reasonable priced sandpaper suitable for the machine is essential, I'll be using loads!
What would you recommend, please?

are they actually that bad they need sanding Pat? quick run over any obviously rough bits by hand, wipe down with a soapy cloth and paint away?

BTW you have too many doors, you need to embrace open plan living :laugh:
 

Psamathe

Senior Member
are they actually that bad they need sanding Pat? quick run over any obviously rough bits by hand, wipe down with a soapy cloth and paint away?
Sort of clarified.
Do you have to completely remove the old paint or just smooth out bits/key for repainting.
Just key for repainting
I was suggesting whilst 10 doors might sound a lot, just a key would take no time doing by hand and even with a sander you'd end-up doing anything 90° by hand anyway.

Ian
 

newts

Veteran
Location
Isca Dumnoniorum
Bosch cordless sander as you have batteries in that platform. I'd always use vacuum extraction for a sander & mask, you only get 1 set of lungs (i'm paying the price for h&s not being strict enough on dust 40 years ago).
Velcro for the abrasive attachement is superior to clipped where the sheets always vibrate off centre.

These are very good for profiles on skirtings & architraves, very durable unlike cheap alternatives.
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https://www.amazon.co.uk/Festool-20...x=festool+abrasive+sponge,aps,179&sr=8-6&th=1
 
I've found the detail electric sander works better than just sanding by hand, plus its much quicker.
I just opened the windows fully and hovered round afterwards. I did wear a mask and googles through when I sanded the walls down as that was unbelievable. I'd go for corded personally as I haven't had good experiences with cordless things. Namely they dont last and you dont get long on a charge.
 

Vantage

Carbon fibre... LMAO!!!
I'd echo screenman on doing it by hand if it's just to prep the surface.
Any power sander regardless of it's awesome dust extraction claims will deposit dust in every nook, cranny and surface you can think of. And some you won't think of. Having the windows open will help the wind to blow it about.
Have you considered spray can primer instead?
 

Tail End Charlie

Well, write it down boy ......
I am also in the camp of hand sanding, if it is to prep only. You don't need to remove the paint, you're just roughening it up a bit to hold the paint you're going to put on.
The link by newts to the sanding blocks looks good. If nothing else you can say you have a "Festool" tool! (Festool is at the top end of woodworking stuff).
 

si_c

Guru
Location
Wirral
Any power sander regardless of it's awesome dust extraction claims will deposit dust in every nook, cranny and surface you can think of. And some you won't think of. Having the windows open will help the wind to blow it about.

That's where having a vacuum hooked up makes a huge difference, I have a few sanders for different jobs but generally once connected up to a vacuum there is little to no dust blowing around or on the surface.
 
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Pat "5mph"

Pat "5mph"

A kilogrammicaly challenged woman
Moderator
Location
Glasgow
I'm back, having read all your excellent suggestions and having had a wee think about the situation.
I said earlier that I had lost the will to live after hand keying a couple of door frames.
Meantime, while thinking about it (I don't like to waste time :laugh: ) I have hand sanded some more.
If I get another few days with good weather to be able to open all windows without freezing to death, I will soon have finished the job!
On clearing out a cupboard I have found guess what? A sanding block and lots of sanding paper!
Obviously I am meant to do this by hand, so I will go down that route ... only 8 door frames left to do :laugh:
I'm also getting a loan of a small sander to try, I'll see how I get on, maybe for a quick skirting boards sanding.

I'm late 60's and just finished painting all house windows and exterior doors, mist of which also needed some repair and filling and a key and I did it all by hand
Kudos to you, I changed all mine to double glazed UPVC - I'd rather be gardening or cycling or baking or reading ^_^
I do work full time though, sometimes 6 days a week, must prioritize stuff that makes me happy ... sanding isn't it! :laugh:
I have a rather excessive number of sanders, even though it's just for home use,
Yes, yes, I have a rather excessive number of baking tins and gardening tools :whistle::tongue:
vibration is a huge factor over a period of time,
Thank you: I did think of this, already got arthritis in my hands, wouldn't want to aggravate it.
The upside is that if you do use proper dust extraction you won't need to worry about dust getting everywhere although using a mask is still a good idea.
Considering I'll soon have a small army of workmen in the flat, I probably should not worry about the dust I will produce with my sanding :laugh:
Might be worth considering chemical and/or hot air paint stripping options to minimise the amount of sanding.
Not worth it for this kind of cheap wood: I did this years ago on lovely detailed doors, but my doors and frames are cheap. I remember it being quite pricey for the chemical and time consuming to get all the paint out. No need to do this in my present flat.
Actually this would probably be my choice for lots of door frames - with a scraper you can get into all the detail areas and it will properly remove all of the paint.
The wood I'm keying for painting over is quite plain, no details.
One "fristration" I have with hand sanding is that I lose the ability to unlick my computer devices using my fingerprint
Oh, I could never do that anyway.
My fingertips are eaten up by the cleaning chemical I use at work, goes through the supplied gloves.
I buy my own marigolds now!
I wore a pair of soft thinis rubber glover (thicker than nitrile but soft and flexible).
Yes!
I did get them for gardening, but I used them for sanding, they are great.
are they actually that bad they need sanding Pat? quick run over any obviously rough bits by hand, wipe down with a soapy cloth and paint away?

BTW you have too many doors, you need to embrace open plan living :laugh:
You are correct for some of the paint. However, in some of the frames, about 4, they used a layer of that cheap gloss that turns yellow, that one I really must sand down.
I know I have too many doors for a 2 bedroom flat!
There is a corridor with 3 cupboards, plus each of the bedrooms has an extra door to access a common built in wardrobe/storage area.
Then the doors of the 2 rooms, the living room, the bathroom and the kitchen!
I have already changed the back door to UPVC, no sanding or painting required.
I'm not counting the front door, because when I get a new one the frame will also be changed.
I did wear a mask and googles through when I sanded the walls down as that was unbelievable.
No walls will be sanded, ever! :wahhey:
Have you considered spray can primer instead?
No, because I don't know what it is ^_^
 
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