What to do with head-on approaches?

[Guyincognito76]

By definition a four wheeled contraption can not be called a bicycle. Is it a quadricycle.

As for being Welsh, I'll leave it up to someone else to Photoshop the quadricycle out, and replace it with a sheep

 

[BentMikey]

I'm not sure I like this English way of referring to all sorts of cycles by their specific number of wheels. The Dutch fiets is much better IMO.

 

[BentMikey]

This is exactly the right thing to do.

Drivers will not wantonly ride through you when they have had time to think.

Thanks. This was particularly difficult for me as I was towing a trailer with my then two year old onboard. That makes you rethink any cycling strategy for safety.

 

[Linford]

I hope you dont have any unrealistic expectations of 4x4s mounting the verge? They wouldn't want to get their precious dirty!

Realistically, they have a very good chance of getting stuck as the ground is so waterlogged ATM
If I am towing with my 4x4, there is no way I am going to risk that scenario, and so I would move as far over to the verge and then stop and wait for a cyclist, horse riders etc to pass, or stop and wait for a car to back up to a passing point on a lane this narrow as it is realistically too convoluted a process having to back it up any distance.
Either way, you have to give or take, and the one which can get on and off the verge the easiest will cause the least disruption to the passage of both parties..

 

[campbellab]

Realistically, they have a very good chance of getting stuck as the ground is so waterlogged ATM
If I am towing with my 4x4, there is no way I am going to risk that scenario, and so I would move as far over to the verge and then stop and wait for a cyclist, horse riders etc to pass, or stop and wait for a car to back up to a passing point on a lane this narrow as it is realistically too convoluted a process having to back it up any distance.
Either way, you have to give or take, and the one which can get on and off the verge the easiest will cause the least disruption to the passage of both parties..

Towing and wet ground accepted! I wish more people would stop to let you pass theres so many potholes at the side of narrow country lanes!

I made a booboo yesterday on, glanced over saw car behind thought I'll just go slowly by the verge and let him pass as no crossing points nearby. Then there was a 4x4 with trailer behind that I wasn't expecting so as I glance over to check for more traffic I've got a big trailer going past my face (livestock - horse or sheep or summat) and a bit of a wobble, eek!

 

[400bhp]

Realistically, they have a very good chance of getting stuck as the ground is so waterlogged ATM
If I am towing with my 4x4, there is no way I am going to risk that scenario, and so I would move as far over to the verge and then stop and wait for a cyclist, horse riders etc to pass, or stop and wait for a car to back up to a passing point on a lane this narrow as it is realistically too convoluted a process having to back it up any distance.
Either way, you have to give or take, and the one which can get on and off the verge the easiest will cause the least disruption to the passage of both parties..

Careful with that word - I 'd say safest comes before easiest.

Also, most 4x4's have stupidly oversized low profile tyres on, so are almost as useless as a rwd car on grass.

 

[BentMikey]

This is quite possibly the most stupid 4x4 I've ever seen:

4m8s for the 4x4, btw:


View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v3DPGiEi7E&t=4m8s

 

[snorri]

If people are in a hurry then smashing in to a cyclist is certainly going to hold them up, drivers probably realise this despite their gestations.

I didn't think it needed saying, the way should be cleared regardless of legalities for those drivers rushing to the maternity hospital.

 

[Linford]

Careful with that word - I 'd say safest comes before easiest.

Also, most 4x4's have stupidly oversized low profile tyres on, so are almost as useless as a rwd car on grass.

Would agree on that, but then that is because the people who buy them want a road car with a commanding position, and (relatively) good handling, rather than something which can handle off road conditions, and be fit for purpose. Mine has 31" tyres on 15" rims (8" high sidewalls) to help avoid damage to them...screws the handling though. It is like turning the QE2

 

[Linford]

This is quite possibly the most stupid 4x4 I've ever seen:

4m8s for the 4x4, btw:


View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v3DPGiEi7E&t=4m8s

America is full of these. They are penis extensions, andthe owners would never dream of using one in anger. The only time they would go offroad it that is (gingerley) climbing the pavement when trying to park.
In native form, they also make rubbish offroaders...do a search on youtube

 

[davefb]

America is full of these. They are penis extensions, andthe owners would never dream of using one in anger. The only time they would go offroad it that is (gingerley) climbing the pavement when trying to park.
In native form, they also make rubbish offroaders...do a search on youtube

'america'

I went across the WHOLE of the states last year (june).. drove from memphis to san diego ( train the rest )... before I went, I kinda thought the same.
but in the midwest, full of 'ford 150's or whatever... you kind of realised WHY people have pickups..

you'd frankly be a bit of a wally to have a 'car'.. once you're in the cities or california though.. it was like europe, the pickups were the 'rare' thing..

but in the midwest , I'd say some areas were over 50% pickup and tbh, they made a lot of sense...........

London.......... wtf ?

 

[400bhp]

Would agree on that, but then that is because the people who buy them want a road car with a commanding position, and (relatively) good handling, rather than something which can handle off road conditions, and be fit for purpose. Mine has 31" tyres on 15" rims (8" high sidewalls) to help avoid damage to them...screws the handling though. It is like turning the QE2

Partially agree on a commanding position but they don't buy them for handling - most haven't a clue what good handling is

 

[Drago]

Hold firm in the primary, but be realistic. If they ain't backing down then the verge is better than an ME's slab.

 

[Ian H]

Hold firm in the primary, but be realistic. If they ain't backing down then the verge is better than an ME's slab.

The idea is to be in a position where it's obvious they can't squeeze past. In my experience they always slow down.

Trouble is, in rural lanes, there are so many people on bikes who almost throw themselves in the hedge at the approach of a car, that motorists almost expect it. So it often takes a moment before the realisation dawns that they are not going to get right of way.

 

[BentMikey]

What you are saying effectively is that your chicken out threshold needs to be closer than theirs, but still leave you just enough time/space to bail out and stay safe.