BentMikey
Rider of Seolferwulf
- Location
- South London
I don't have a boat, but I do have a bike with tiller steering. 

Sorry, but where is the boat in this picture?.. It certainly does have a tiller!How did this drift one into the commuting by small boat and craft anyway?
So big ungainly bars which slow steering response for city riding when space is at a premium & the more agility the better?Flats for city commuting.
Drops only for longer rides.
So big ungainly bars which slow steering response for city riding when space is at a premium & the more agility the better?![]()
Flat bars a much harder to manage the tyre position, lean angle & angle of attack of the bike at the same time (it's to do with the relative position of the hands, steerer tube & required head geometry), managing 2 at the same time is easy. This shouldn't make much difference but after riding a sorted drop setup & a properly sorted flat bar setup I'd never want lose the ability to precisely control all 3 at the same time.It doesn't slow my steering response that much. I have never been in a situation where I would be in some kind of trouble because I am riding flat bars.
Incorrect, the fit of you bike defines the view of your surroundings. Yes if you have deep set drops & high set flat bars you'll end up with a better view on your flat bars but if your flat bars are deep & have a tall stance on your drops then the oposite is true.They give me better view or my surroundings too, and in any case, that is what I am used to riding with.
I agree.
Though Mark used the bars for his epic round the world journey !
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I find drops give me better view its easier to change my position on them to change my view and the movement seems to catch the eye of drivers more but ride with what you are comfortable with, it doesn't matter what you ride as long as you rideThey give me better view or my surroundings too, and in any case, that is what I am used to riding with.
Indeed, the flat bars on my current commuter-of-choice are lower than the tops of any of my dropped-bar bikes.Incorrect, the fit of you bike defines the view of your surroundings. Yes if you have deep set drops & high set flat bars you'll end up with a better view on your flat bars but if your flat bars are deep & have a tall stance on your drops then the oposite is true.
Flat bars a much harder to manage the tyre position, lean angle & angle of attack of the bike at the same time (it's to do with the relative position of the hands, steerer tube & required head geometry), managing 2 at the same time is easy. This shouldn't make much difference but after riding a sorted drop setup & a properly sorted flat bar setup I'd never want lose the ability to precisely control all 3 at the same time.
Incorrect, the fit of you bike defines the view of your surroundings. Yes if you have deep set drops & high set flat bars you'll end up with a better view on your flat bars but if your flat bars are deep & have a tall stance on your drops then the oposite is true.
Angle of attack is the direction the bike is pointing v's where it's going. For every corner there's numerous combinations of lean & steering input which allow you to turn through the same line. Due to the geometry of handle bars using non-natural variations tends to be much easier on drop, hoods & bull horns.This is quite interesting. I always thought that road bikes with drops are better for fast riding only because of their light weight, aerodynamic riding position and thin tyres.
I will read up more on this.
I just don't understand what angle of attack is and what it determines.