When is it unsafe to be overtaken?

[ufkacbln]

i believe it is actually 60.5 com rounded up to 61cm. please don't give misleading information to beginners, bonj!

The recommended distance is actually about 3 feet or the average length of 7 erect penises.... now I can only assume that each driver is making the calculation of 7 times their own organ.... most van drivers and BMW drivers seem to average about 2 - 3 inches!

A thought hat makes me smile....

 

[HJ]

Thanks for all the replies everyone

Where should I be on roads with light (a couple of cars every few minutes) but normally fast traffic?

In a primary position, it will make you more visible.

Ignore the joke cyclist, only they take them selves seriously...

 

[Joe24]

Here is a discussion point...

A clearly marked "cycle lane" through the pinch point. Would you (personal opinion) stay in the cycle lane or move out into primary?

No, i would say bollocks to the cycle lane, and ride in primary like normal.
And in that cycle lane, id also ride to the right of it, pretty much not in it.

I have honestly never read cycle craft, and dont feel unsafe.
I doubt many peiple in my club have read it either, and they have been cycling many many years.

 

[purplepolly]

No, i would say bollocks to the cycle lane, and ride in primary like normal.
And in that cycle lane, id also ride to the right of it, pretty much not in it.

I have honestly never read cycle craft, and dont feel unsafe.
I doubt many peiple in my club have read it either, and they have been cycling many many years.

I think cyclecraft is aimed more at new cyclists, but you would probably find it in agreement with you here on the appropriate position to take. Although I'm not sure Franklin actually says "bollocks", he does however point out many faults with cycle lanes and paths.

 

[Joe24]

So i know what position to be in and ive never read cyclecraft
Shows how utter pointless it is, just use your brain

 

[purplepolly]

So i know what position to be in and ive never read cyclecraft
Shows how utter pointless it is, just use your brain

Absolutely, we could also dispense with driving lessons and the highway code and just rely on everybody using common sense.

 

[Joe24]

Absolutely, we could also dispense with driving lessons and the highway code and just rely on everybody using common sense.

Perfect!
Have like a CBT but for cars, go and do a day, maybe two, of finding out about the car and do a few skills and then your off!

 

[HJ]

I think cyclecraft is aimed more at new cyclists, but you would probably find it in agreement with you here on the appropriate position to take. Although I'm not sure Franklin actually says "bollocks", he does however point out many faults with cycle lanes and paths.

I have actually read Cyclecraft, I was given a copy at my Cycle Tutors course, even thought I have been riding for more years than I care to remember I found it to be an interesting read. There is a fair bit in there on advanced techniques, ie dealing with dual carriageways etc which goes way beyond beginers. I would recommend it to all those who actually cycle on the road (wouldn't go quite as far as Magnatom and recommend to Taxi drivers), but to anyone who doesn't think that they already know everything already, there probably something new you will get out of it...

 

[Arch]

So i know what position to be in and ive never read cyclecraft
Shows how utter pointless it is, just use your brain

a) You probably know where to be because you've learnt it from other people. Some people don't have anyone to learn from, so a book helps.

some people actually learn better from a book, so it's a better way for them to learn.

c) you have a brain?

 

[purplepolly]

I have actually read Cyclecraft, I was given a copy at my Cycle Tutors course, even thought I have been riding for more years than I care to remember I found it to be an interesting read. There is a fair bit in there on advanced techniques, ie dealing with dual carriageways etc which goes way beyond beginers. I would recommend it to all those who actually cycle on the road (wouldn't go quite as far as Magnatom and recommend to Taxi drivers), but to anyone who doesn't think that they already know everything already, there probably something new you will get out of it...

Agree entirely, I was trying to shut Joe up without a long debate

 

[ufkacbln]

CycleCraft is not a book that has to be applied and followed faithfully, but it has good ideas, advice and gets you thinking about the way you cycle.

Even after 50 years of bikes and 30 years of commuting, I still have room to learn, analyse and improve.... and yes I gain insight form sites like this.

What worries me is that some people refuse to read a book like CycleCraft and rely on their own intuition and development - there is no analysis or feedback.

 

[Joe24]

a) You probably know where to be because you've learnt it from other people. Some people don't have anyone to learn from, so a book helps.

some people actually learn better from a book, so it's a better way for them to learn.

c) you have a brain?

First off, i didnt learn from anyone! I went out on my folder on my own, and learnt where to be on the road myself, i made it up. Found out where i needed to move out to stop people from overtaking, and other road positions i need.
If some people learn better from a book then doing they arent a cyclist, they are a book reader.
C, going by my exam results, no. But never mind.

 

[abchandler]

If some people learn better from a book then doing they arent a cyclist, they are a book reader.

= load of cobblers

 

[Joe24]

= load of cobblers

Oh yeh, what do you know?

If you want to sit and read books all your time, your missing out on the chance to go out and learn.

FACT

 

[Lurker]

To return to the OP... it can also be unsafe to be overtaken when it's very windy (cross-winds especially can be tricky), visibility is poor (for instance because of heavy rain), or when the road surface is poor, for whatever reason. In all these situations you need more space than under 'ideal' conditions.