Where is the law written down ?
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jack smith
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Just thought that myself lol theres one in my street classic blue gold rims and full scooby livery lovely and loud! Must be irritating for non car types though. Some bikers have what i consider illigal exhausts for example the ones that blow your internal organs to bits as they overtake you on your cycle. Seems they always purposley rev more just as they pass too!
Drago
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machew
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Every exhaust system and silencer shall be maintained in good and efficient working order and shall not be altered so as to increase the noise made by the escape of exhaust gases. stem and silencer shall be maintained in good and efficient working order and shall not be altered so as to increase the noise made by the escape of exhaust gases.
The Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986
The Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986
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IncoherentJeff
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I had a loud Yoshimura exhaust can on my motorcycle. Passed 3 MOT's with it fitted.
Only one MOT center gave me an advisory for a loud exhaust. Though mine didn't have "not for road use" or "race use only" stamped onto it which some do, any such stamp renders the exhaust illegal for road use. This appears to be part a motorcycle specific section of The Road Vehicles (Construction & Use) Regulations 1986 (regulation 57a).
I've since moved into a terraced house and removed it as I don't wish to upset the neighbors.
There is a 89db limit for most vehicle types ( http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1986/1078/regulation/55/made ) depending on their age/use.
The Police Reform Act 2002, Section 59, provides for the seizure by the police, in certain circumstances, of vehicles being used in such a manner as to cause alarm, distress or annoyance. If you complain to your local traffic officers not the normal officers they may issue a section 59 warning notice to the owner/driver.
http://trafficlawadvice.co.uk/section-59-notices.html
Only one MOT center gave me an advisory for a loud exhaust. Though mine didn't have "not for road use" or "race use only" stamped onto it which some do, any such stamp renders the exhaust illegal for road use. This appears to be part a motorcycle specific section of The Road Vehicles (Construction & Use) Regulations 1986 (regulation 57a).
I've since moved into a terraced house and removed it as I don't wish to upset the neighbors.
There is a 89db limit for most vehicle types ( http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1986/1078/regulation/55/made ) depending on their age/use.
The Police Reform Act 2002, Section 59, provides for the seizure by the police, in certain circumstances, of vehicles being used in such a manner as to cause alarm, distress or annoyance. If you complain to your local traffic officers not the normal officers they may issue a section 59 warning notice to the owner/driver.
http://trafficlawadvice.co.uk/section-59-notices.html
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IncoherentJeff
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[QUOTE 3755783, member: 9609"]I think some of it was revised within the last few years. Norfolk Constabulary quote the following on this web page they can't have just made that up ?
There will be new EU wide noise & emissions regulations relating to any new vehicles constructed since the law was enacted, which I don't think can be applied retrospectively to existing vehicles.
I think Norfolk Constabulary have summarised the mumbo jumbo official word of the law into layman's terms.
The law is still based on the Road Vehicles (Construction & Use) Regulations 1986 as linked above, however the downfall of the legislation.gov.uk website is that it's easy to see the original wording of the law not the current version. It's possible to go through all the amendment's but it takes forever... http://www.legislation.gov.uk/changes/affected/uksi/1986/1078
With regards to the MOT test the Norfolk Constabulary need to check some of their facts
( https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa.../429028/mot-inspection-manual-classes-1-2.pdf page 72)...
Method of Inspection
2. With the engine running assess the effectiveness of the silencer(s) in reducing as far as is reasonable the noise emitted.
3. Check the silencer(s) on all machines for any unacceptable markings.
Reasons for Rejection
2. A silencer that is in such a condition or is of such a type that the noise emitted is clearly in excess of that which would be produced by a similar machine fitted with a standard silencer in average condition.
3. A silencer marked ‘NOT FOR ROAD USE’, ‘TRACK USE ONLY’ or similar words.
And for Classes 3, 4, 5 & 7 (cars etc) the MOT Manual states
( https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa...nspection-manual-classes-3-4-5-7-vehicles.pdf , page 157)
Method of Inspection
4. During all parts of the emissions test relevant for the vehicle, assess subjectively the effectiveness of the silencer in reducing exhaust noise.
Reason for Rejection
4. A silencer in such condition, or of such a type, that noise emitted from the vehicle is clearly unreasonably above the level expected from a similar vehicle with a standard silencer in average condition.
The problem is the MOT test is subjective, it could've be solved by requiring each test center to have a decibel meter. I believe the standard VOSA test is to use the meter 0.5 meters away at an angle of 45 degrees from the exhaust at a certain level of revs.
I think your best bet is to mention a Section 59 notice to your local police regarding antisocial use of a vehicle.
- The vast majority of large or big bore exhausts are illegal for use on public roads. The fact they may have passed an MOT test is irrelevant as this only checks for exhaust gasses and emission legislation compliance.
- Big bore and sports exhaust systems are usually fitted to increase the sound emitted and this contravenes the Type Approval of the vehicle, which is an offence. There is no requirement for a police officer to measure the sound level from the exhaust system, it only requires an opinion that the system is not standard and that it is noisier than a normal vehicle of the same specification.
- It is not an offence to sell these exhaust systems, but it is an offence to fit one to your vehicle and drive it on a public road. Motorists who do so could be reported to court and may face a fine and court costs.
There will be new EU wide noise & emissions regulations relating to any new vehicles constructed since the law was enacted, which I don't think can be applied retrospectively to existing vehicles.
I think Norfolk Constabulary have summarised the mumbo jumbo official word of the law into layman's terms.
The law is still based on the Road Vehicles (Construction & Use) Regulations 1986 as linked above, however the downfall of the legislation.gov.uk website is that it's easy to see the original wording of the law not the current version. It's possible to go through all the amendment's but it takes forever... http://www.legislation.gov.uk/changes/affected/uksi/1986/1078
With regards to the MOT test the Norfolk Constabulary need to check some of their facts
The MOT Inspection Manual for Class 1+2 vehicles (motorcycles) statesNorfolk Constabulary said:
( https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa.../429028/mot-inspection-manual-classes-1-2.pdf page 72)...
Method of Inspection
2. With the engine running assess the effectiveness of the silencer(s) in reducing as far as is reasonable the noise emitted.
3. Check the silencer(s) on all machines for any unacceptable markings.
Reasons for Rejection
2. A silencer that is in such a condition or is of such a type that the noise emitted is clearly in excess of that which would be produced by a similar machine fitted with a standard silencer in average condition.
3. A silencer marked ‘NOT FOR ROAD USE’, ‘TRACK USE ONLY’ or similar words.
And for Classes 3, 4, 5 & 7 (cars etc) the MOT Manual states
( https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa...nspection-manual-classes-3-4-5-7-vehicles.pdf , page 157)
Method of Inspection
4. During all parts of the emissions test relevant for the vehicle, assess subjectively the effectiveness of the silencer in reducing exhaust noise.
Reason for Rejection
4. A silencer in such condition, or of such a type, that noise emitted from the vehicle is clearly unreasonably above the level expected from a similar vehicle with a standard silencer in average condition.
The problem is the MOT test is subjective, it could've be solved by requiring each test center to have a decibel meter. I believe the standard VOSA test is to use the meter 0.5 meters away at an angle of 45 degrees from the exhaust at a certain level of revs.
I think your best bet is to mention a Section 59 notice to your local police regarding antisocial use of a vehicle.
classic33
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Spuds!
[QUOTE 3757298, member: 9609"]there are some Scoobies amongst the local boy racers but they are not my particular complaint as far as excessive exhaust noise goes - I don't care much for the Subaru sound , I have never much cared for the note emitted from a flat engine, but it is a natural sound. My dislike is for the unnatural sound of these stupid dustbin size resonance devices fitted to squirty little hatch backs - may be it is the unnaturalness of the sound that makes them so bloody irritating. Here is one I recorded in the local village, due to the amount of stupid bolt on body kit I am not sure what sort of car it was, and the moron driving it didn't look a day over 15.
I don't care much for the sound of the big bikes either, but it is a natural sound that fits the machine, and although they most certainly disturb my peace, (how dare they), it is during the day and they are gone within a few minutes, where as the local boy racers, they just race each other round and round the local roads often into the wee small hours, some evenings it is like living in the middle of the 24 hour Lemans race - I reckon at 2am you can here them for up to 5 miles away, I can sometimes work out what road they are on and which bend they are slowing down for or what hill they are climbing.
Oh and thanks for your other thoughts.[/QUOTE]
You're looking in the wrong place if you are not happy with being disturbed by the noise . Environmental health will put a stop to it and instruct the police to oversee their requests
I don't care much for the sound of the big bikes either, but it is a natural sound that fits the machine, and although they most certainly disturb my peace, (how dare they), it is during the day and they are gone within a few minutes, where as the local boy racers, they just race each other round and round the local roads often into the wee small hours, some evenings it is like living in the middle of the 24 hour Lemans race - I reckon at 2am you can here them for up to 5 miles away, I can sometimes work out what road they are on and which bend they are slowing down for or what hill they are climbing.
Oh and thanks for your other thoughts.[/QUOTE]
You're looking in the wrong place if you are not happy with being disturbed by the noise . Environmental health will put a stop to it and instruct the police to oversee their requests
