Which compromise?

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James Ots

Senior Member
Location
Coventry
I'm looking for a bike to get under the cycle to work scheme (so £1000 or less), for my short commute (which sometimes includes going through the woods when I feel like it), and sometimes doing longer rides (50-100km). I've decided the best bike for this would be a cyclocross-style bike, and narrowed down my choice to two bikes. I discounted some bikes because of having the brake callipers in the 'wrong' place (i.e. in the way of putting on a rack), or for not having rack and mudguard mounts. Several bikes didn't have low enough gears (a low gear of at least 34/30 is a must for me at the moment). Some bikes were just too ugly for me.

The two bikes on my shortlist are the 2014 Specialized Tricross Sport Disc and the 2014 Kona Jake. (The 2014 Pinnacle Arkose 3 sometimes sneaks back on (due to its 105 componentry), but it tends to get kicked off the list for still being too ugly (or at least, looking rather boring compared to the Tricross and Jake)).

The Tricross sounds like it might be a slightly more relaxed and stable ride — better for the long distance stuff. It also has BB7 brakes, while the Jake has Tektro Lyras, which I keep hearing bad things about. On the other hand, I'm used to riding a mountain bike with a fairly high bottom bracket and reasonably twitchy steering. And the Tricross has Sora components, but the Jake has Tiagra, which some people say doesn't make much difference, but they do feel much nicer on bikes I've looked at (although not actually ridden). The Tricross looks like it might have better tyres for on the road. I have shorter than average legs for my height, so the Jake's geometry might be better.

From all of that though, it looks like the Tricross is probably the winner. However, I'd be buying the Tricross either from the concept store in Birmingham, Mike Vaughan in Kenilworth or Evans in Birmingham. Neither the concept store nor Mike Vaughan's were particularly helpful or friendly when I visited them. Evans seemed to do a better job, but if I was buying the Jake I could get it from The Bike Yard in Leamington. I have only ever heard good things about them, and when I went into the shop they were extremely helpful, and I think I'm more likely to get a bike which fits properly if I get it from there. The shop is run by cyclists, and I also just like the idea of buying from an LBS.

Is it worth getting the Jake just so I can buy from The Bike Yard?

(Of course, once the bikes get into stock and a ride them, I might discover I much prefer one over the other anyway!)
 

vickster

Squire
Presumably you've had a testride from Evans (or other) - they are very accommodating if they have the bike in store and there is no obligation (other than 1p on your debit card)

I can't comment on any other retailers in those parts but buy from the shop you like most as you'll be giving them your business in future no doubt

For the money, Specialized bikes tend to be underspecced compared to the competition but do have a good frame guarantee and aftersales if required
 
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James Ots

James Ots

Senior Member
Location
Coventry
I haven't had a test ride — the bikes aren't available yet. I imagine that a test ride will help me to decide, but since I have several weeks until I can do that I'm going to spend far too much time deliberating over the choice first!
 

Nico

Active Member
I am also considering the 2014 Tricross Sport through the C2W scheme. I'll book a test ride as soon as it is available. I know Specialized are less value for money than other brands and this only has Shimano Sora which gets mixed reviews. I still think though it makes a great all rounder for commuting and other duties to accompany my Sunday carbon best. How does it compare to a steel cyclocross bike like the Genesis Croix de Fer? Is it a harsh ride given the alu frame and fork?

Another alternative could be the Norco A1 Threshold which seems great value for money with Shimano 105. The only downside is the 46/36 chainset but I reckon it can be easily replaced.

http://www.evanscycles.com/products/norco/threshold-a1-2014-cyclocross-bike-ec053832#features
 
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brucers

Guru
Location
Scunthorpe
I don't know which one I'd go for but I would not go for the Specialized....just because relatively it's more common (also I tend to aim for the higher groupsets too)!
 
Assuming both fit properly just decide which has the best frame and that's your answer, simple.

Everything else can be easily upgraded overtime if need be.

FWIW I don't like Kona bikes myself as they always look a bit oldy worldy too me, and Specialized are ten a penny.

There are loads of other CX bikes available, Cannondale, Focus, Cube to name just 3.

If I were you I'd broaden your horizons and test as many as possible.
 
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James Ots

James Ots

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Location
Coventry
I did have a lot of other bikes on my list before I narrowed it down to the Tricross, Jake and (sometimes) Arkose. And I got an email from Kona this week saying that they've sold out of Jakes and there won't be any more until the end of January, so that made my choice much easier.

Yesterday I went bike shop shopping, to see if Red Kite Cycles in Solihull would be a good place to get my bike from when it's eventually in stock. When I got there, they actually had a 2014 Tricross in store, in my size. Elite, rather than Sport, but the only difference as far as I can tell is the groupset and colour. Had a play with it and it's really nice, and the guy in the shop was very friendly and helpful, so I've got a quote and now I just have to play to waiting game with the cycle scheme (or rather, with my employers dealing with the cycle scheme).
 

sazzaa

Guest
Have you looked at these at all? They're £999 for the new model.... http://www.genesisbikes.co.uk/bikes/adventure/cyclocross/vapour
 

vickster

Squire
Assuming PX is part of the OP's C2W scheme (PX may also charge a surcharge for C2W as do Ribble)

And it's not exactly a go anywhere CX model like the Tricross or Jake - he has already discounted other options for no mudguard clearance or rack mounts. While the PX might take Cruds, it won't take a fixed rack (like any carbon frame)

Bike recos are all very well but they should at least go somewhere to meeting the brief (unless a pure N+1 is sought of course, then a unicycle or penny farthing is fair game)
 
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James Ots

James Ots

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Location
Coventry
Here's a list of some of the bikes I've considered. I may have forgotten some.

Whyte Dorset, Genesis Vapor, Genesis CdF, Kona Jake, Marin Lombard, Giant TCX, Trek Crossrip, Cannondale CAADX, Focus Mares, Cube Cross Race, B'Twin Cyclo-X, Pinnacle Arkose, Roux Conquest.

I haven't considered the Carbox Planet X road bike. Or any pure road bikes. I haven't considered any triathlon bikes, or downhill bikes, or boats, or cameras. I'd love to spend the money on the new Lumix GX7, but I already have a GX1 which does a good enough job (a pretty awesome job, actually). Though now I mention it, I would like a boat. Maybe I should buy myself a boat next year.
 
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