Which Virtual Training Software & Price?

Discussion in 'Virtual Training: Bkool, Zwift, CycleOps & others' started by Heltor Chasca, 19 Nov 2017.

  1. Whorty

    Whorty WADA conclude I don't need a TUE!

    Location:
    SW Wiltshire
    I do the same, although it's sometimes too tempting to push hard and see if I can set a PB :wacko:
     
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  2. Aleman

    Aleman Ale Man (BKool)

    Location:
    Blackpool UK
    If you want to do simulated rides, and it's working then BKool is difficult to beat, although I'm having issues with video playback sometimes I get as much as 30 seconds (in total) of playback in a 40KM ride!! It was a big selling feature for me having the ability to upload your own rides with video which I have done, but the hoops you have to jump though to get it to work are soul destroying sometimes. The 2.5GB limit on total video size certainly restricts quality or length of ride. The BKool software to edit and upload video rides has just about entered alpha testing as far as quality is concerned. However for the reduced price subscription I got last year (3.99 a month) it's good value.

    BRVR also allows you to ride your own video routes (but not share them - ** ) as long as you have the video and synced GPX file (Which is easy to do with Garmins Virb Edit) using my Fly 12 I have the option of Full HD or 720 ... my hardware doesn't handle full HD particularly well, so I use the 720p option, and frankly it's brilliant. ... It's also in open beta at the moment as is free to use so excellent VFM. It also has 'pootle' rides Bergen for example ... as long as you create your own 'course' and ignore the first 5KM.

    ** Technically you can share them using a Dropbox/Google docs folder , but the video size rapidly exceeds the 'free'options for that. ... Someone with a web host that allows unlimited file storage might be able to get around that :biggrin:
     
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  3. steverob

    steverob Über Member

    Location:
    Buckinghamshire
    Unfortunately don't have a camera on my bike, so I can't upload videos of my rides, but Bkool and Rouvy do sound like they have flatter options for those of us that aren't mountain goats, so that's promising! As I said, I lucked out on getting the lower price for Zwift, so this isn't a decision I need to make for another 12 months or so, but it's good to know I've got options.
     
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  4. Flint

    Flint Active Member

    Try Veloreality if you want really HIGH QUALITY (227 soon to be 267 videos). You can have those in HD 1080p or 4K (2160p if you have proper hardware)
     
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  5. Aleman

    Aleman Ale Man (BKool)

    Location:
    Blackpool UK
    I'm currently trying to get a Lenovo P71 laptop workstation from work ... i7 and 4K screen and a P4000 video card, should be just about right :biggrin:
     
  6. OP
    OP
    Heltor Chasca

    Heltor Chasca Out-Riding the Black Dog

    Just a quick post to thank you all for the advice. I’ve been enjoying the use of a a Kickr Snap and have tried out the various simulation apps. To be honest, they don’t seem to be my type of thing yet. I don’t have a telly and I’ve never been into gaming. Maybe that’s why. I may come round to it and there are couple of free options mentioned upthread. It’s not a closed chapter.

    But the winner is : TrainerRoad. It really works well with how my organisational matter works in my head and I relate to the layout and lack of clutter the others seem swamped in. The diarised training plans really look great. I’m looking forward to some decent improvements in my performance.

    Thanks again.
     
  7. ... it should be mentioned that BRVR offers the opportunity to easily use old
    Tacx RLV videos, which is not so obviou. In fact, at least to my knowledge,
    the same cannot be done by, e.g., Bkool or other sw, unless with exploiting some acrobatic maneuvers :smile:
    Suposing you have a certain number of aforementioned old videos, you have just to say BRVR sw where to catch them (along with associated rlv, pgmf files) and the program will show you automatically those rides.
    From my perpsective, also counting that the same Tacx is used to oblige their customers to update the sw by paying some extra buck at each single release (supposing it works with your 'old' laptop, otherwise you have to upgrade it because of the growing requests of the new Tacx version...), this BRVR's capability is worth really a lot !
     
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  8. Aleman

    Aleman Ale Man (BKool)

    Location:
    Blackpool UK
    It also works with rides recorded on a GoPro or Fly12, and a GPX track from a navigation device ... without the limitation of dropping the quality down to fit it into a 2.5GB limit
     
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  9. theboxers

    theboxers TheBoxers on Bkool

    Location:
    OTC (on the couch)
    I'd like to see some of your rides from Bkool in full HD. I've got a few in line to have a go at when I've completed my current plan sessions and the LEJoG league.
     
  10. Aleman

    Aleman Ale Man (BKool)

    Location:
    Blackpool UK
    I'd put them in dropbox but they are around 160GB for a 3 hour video!!
     
  11. theboxers

    theboxers TheBoxers on Bkool

    Location:
    OTC (on the couch)
    :eek::cry:.

    I've just remebered my SSD on my turboing PC is only 128Gb :cry:
     
  12. Aleman

    Aleman Ale Man (BKool)

    Location:
    Blackpool UK
    I had to buy a 4TB external Hard Drive to hold them!!
     
  13. Flint

    Flint Active Member

    That seems like a disproportionally high bandwidth. You might want to check your encoder settings.
     
  14. Aleman

    Aleman Ale Man (BKool)

    Location:
    Blackpool UK
    Agreed, That is with Virb Edit Set to Maximum Quality.
     
  15. theboxers

    theboxers TheBoxers on Bkool

    Location:
    OTC (on the couch)
    I may need to ship you a USB3 drive to copy them to for me :smile::okay: :laugh:
     
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