Why do folk fear cameras nowadays?

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vernon

Harder than Ronnie Pickering
Location
Meanwood, Leeds
XmisterIS said:
OP - you forgot to mention that these are the same parents that take little Johnny to school in a Jeep Cherokee, a Range Rover Sport or a Hummer H4 ... with just a driver and one passenger.

And the connection is?........
 

vernon

Harder than Ronnie Pickering
Location
Meanwood, Leeds
Schools, aspecially primary schools are jumpy over 'safeguarding' their charge. Basically it's a national issue forced upon schools and inpected and reported upon by OFSTED.

Some of the measures taken by schools are OTT but aim to achieve zero risk to pupils in every physical and emotional sense. Implementing some of these measures can induce a degree of paranoia amongst teachers, non teaching staff, parents and pupils leading to an avalanche of incidents requiring attention and action. There is little room to manoeuvre for schools who are just getting to grips with the consequences of failing to fully implement safeguarding measures - a failed inspection irrespective of educational standards and performance. Common sense undermines the perceived safety achieved by undeviating adherence to policies and procedures so it tends to be excluded from the implementation of safeguarding measures.

Extending the 'safeguarding zone' outside of school is, perhaps, overzealous but indicative of risk elimination measures adopted by many schools. There should not be any need for raised blood pressure on anyone's part. Calm but assertive enquiries and even tempered responses could have established an agreement.
 

stoatsngroats

Legendary Member
Location
South East
xpc316e said:
I started to tell her that I could take whatever pictures I liked as I was in a public place, photographing other people in a public place.

Correct - For an advice sheet on UK law regarding Photographers, there's a pdf available here.....

Interestingly, Police Powers are being challenged...."Stop and Account" allow police officers to ask questions but You are NOT obliged to give your personal details to the officer! This has been in the news very recently HERE>>>

If you're being dealt with under Anti-Terrorism than that's a different case, but the suspicion would need a more serious situation than standing outside a school!

HTH
 

Dilbert

Active Member
Location
Blackpool
The terrorism argument is completely bogus. Its just another step towards the USSR in Western Europe.

The business with schools is equally depressing. They are supposed to be places of learning and reasoned argument and yet they are bowing to the moronic hysteria that everyone is a pedophile. This attitude is trivializing pedophilia which is a horrific crime and doing nothing to protect children.
 

ComedyPilot

Secret Lemonade Drinker
Joe said:

:rofl::rofl::biggrin::tongue:

WTF is going on with our paranoid nation?
 

wafflycat

New Member
There was one on the BBC news earlier, put out by plod as PR about how they are being perfectly reasonable in this attitude to photography. :biggrin: They showed how some *terrorists* werre filming themselves on the Underground with a mobile phone camera and wait for it... they had filmed the Underground map in an effort to know about the Underground system. *Shock* *Horror* They were filming a map that appears all over the UK and is on sale all over the UK on AtoZ, diaries... My thoughts - well plod, if that's all you've got, then it's about time you resigned.
 

Joe

Über Member
It's ludicrous, and definitely asking for a mass filming of somewhere "high profile"...
 
That Guardian video from yesterday is a very uncomfortable piece of work.:biggrin:

I agree about the hands in the vest business - terribly slack. However, the scenario is helpful to the student in that she was working on a project about CCTV and surveillance - and experienced a sort of consequence of her investigations...
 
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