Why do they make applying for jobs so complicated?!

[biggs682]

So everyone does not apply

 

[Levo-Lon]

I think the most annoying part is your most likely to be applying for a job that doesn't exist....yet..Or maybe it might in a few years.
I think all these vacancies are there to just get people to register..
Tho online jobsite stuff is just BS for the most part.

I got my job going direct to the company website..

Good luck Sandra..

 

[CanucksTraveller]

I think the most annoying part is your most likely to be applying for a job that doesn't exist....yet..Or maybe it might in a few years.
I think all these vacancies are there to just get people to register..

Good luck Sandra..

Nah, it costs money to advertise a role, and companies simply don't need more potential candidates on their books. They get more than enough when there's a live role actually advertised.

It can be the case of course that an applicant has no chance of the advertised job, it may be earmarked for an internal colleague for instance.

 

[ufkacbln]

If it makes you feel any better my company makes staff use the same system as external new hires when applying for a new position in the company. Same log in and same password requirements, same CV upload and form to fill out as anyone outside the company applying for a job. When HR already has all my info on record.

Often to do with "openness and transparency"

We only see anonymous applications with the details of the individual removed, then shortlist from this.

Only when we have shortlisted and indicated that we wish to interview doe we get to see any of the details.

 

[screenman]

I'm sort of looking for a part time position, and when I compare the effort they want me to make simply app!ying against the hourly pay on offer, I think to myself "F*** this s***".

Internal jobs within the Police were the same. It wasn't who was best suited to the role, but who was the best at playing their silly games. It did little except justify the existence of HR, who at one point had a staff member for barely three coopers.

So what has making barrels to do with it?

 

[classic33]

I'm sort of looking for a part time position, and when I compare the effort they want me to make simply app!ying against the hourly pay on offer, I think to myself "F*** this s***".

Internal jobs within the Police were the same. It wasn't who was best suited to the role, but who was the best at playing their silly games. It did little except justify the existence of HR, who at one point had a staff member for barely three coopers.

Barrel makers in the police!
Gave them something to do with their hoops I suppose.

 

[CanucksTraveller]

Barrel makers in the police!
Gave them something to do with their hoops I suppose.

 

[screenman]

[QUOTE 4737375, member: 45"]CVs are no good. They only include the generics, and aren't relevant to a specific job.

Recruiting managers don't want to spend days interviewing for posts and wasting time inviting people in to find out that they're clearly unsuitable . They shortlist based on specific essential and desirable criteria, and an applicant can't demonstrate these criteria on a CV so there's a need for as specific application form.

Demonstrate on an application form that you meet the essential criteria and you're pretty much guaranteed an interview. Don't, and those who spent the time filling in the form properly will get the opportunity you missed.[/QUOTE]

Whoosh! that was the noise that lot made as it went above my head. It is when I read posts like thatwhen I realise how thick I am.

 

[growingvegetables]

It's partly to sort the "I really want this job" type from the "I can't really be arsed, but what the heck" camp.

Ah - so people with dyslexia are actually people who "can't really be arsed, but what the heck". Interesting.

If it was excessively simple, the poor hiring manager would have .....

... to do the job for which s/he is paid.

 

[growingvegetables]

It's a buyer's market from the employer's point of view.

^^^ This. And boy, can they be choosy.

 

[CanucksTraveller]

Ah - so people with dyslexia are actually people who "can't really be arsed, but what the heck". Interesting.

I never said that, or even intimated it. Please don't misquote or put words in other people's mouths.

... to do the job for which s/he is paid.

I sifted hundreds of CVs the other week, but I'm not paid to do that, and it doesn't appear in my job description. But HR are not always the best people to sift applications, particularly for specialist posts; Sometimes better qualified people volunteer in order to give the best applicants the best chance, and the company the best candidates.

 

[Biff600]

It's worth spending the time getting the application forms filled in correctly.

I changed my job recently, went for the interview on the Monday, had a phone call the following morning saying that I was the successful candidate.

Not only have I got regular hours and a more structured work routine than I had when I was self-employed, I get a substantial wage increase !

 

[growingvegetables]

I never said that, or even intimated it. Please don't misquote or put words in other people's mouths.

Excuse me! I neither misquoted, nor put words in your mouth.

I merely raised an issue. One that directly affects far too many of the students I teach. And a desperately harsh reality. Fact - this isn't about you.

Look at the application process for Greggs. Go on ... tell me how a kid with dyslexia can cope with that level of "corporate-speak". Damn it, even a kid with who has just "found school hard".

I sifted hundreds of CVs the other week, but I'm not paid to do that, and it doesn't appear in my job description. But HR are not always the best people to sift applications, particularly for specialist posts; Sometimes better qualified people volunteer in order to give the best applicants the best chance, and the company the best candidates.

And I'm sorry ... but that's self-serving flannel. I also have sifted hundreds and hundreds of cvs in my time. And, no it wasn't in my job description either. And I wasn't in HR!

 

[CanucksTraveller]

And I'm sorry ... but that's self-serving flannel.

But one post before, you literally said... "the job they're paid to do". And I told you I for one am not paid to do it. And then you said you're not paid to do it either, but you've still done it.




I've not looked at the Greggs application process, but if you say it's full of corporate speak then there's no need for that, and I can sympathise with applicants.

We're probably at cross purposes... I don't come here for arguments so I'll cease there.

 

[Pat "5mph"]

@Sandra6 my friend, made redundant at almost 60 years of age, had the same problem as you have.
Her 20 year old son got impatient with her attempts (she is not a computer ignoramus by all means) so he told her: Mum, let me.
In 5 minutes he applied for about 2 dozen jobs for her - I don't know, she does not know either, how the boy did it, but she got at least 6 interviews from his 5 minutes at the keyboard.
She got contacted so many times that she could not remember the jobs she applied for!
What I'm trying to say is get one of your kids to do it for you.
Good luck!