Why Punk HAD to happen

[threebikesmcginty]

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1976 wasn't completely shite - Boston Tea Party by Alex Harve.
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Without wishing to offend any SAHB fans, I can't stand that song. Or them. Sorry.

 

[slowmotion]

Without wishing to offend any SAHB fans, I can't stand that song. Or them. Sorry.

I always found them disturbing. Never mind 1976, here they were in 1973 with a rendition of Jacques Brel's Next. Not exactly peace, love and understanding.

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[threebikesmcginty]

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By the way, do you have a link to the C&W song "I'd marry you tomorrow but can we have the honeymoon tonight?"

It's for a friend. (Don't ask).

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Can't find a link, Crock. If you need to get a copy it's a Joe Stampley song from his LP 'Red Wine and Blue Memories'. Joe recorded quite a bit with a guy called Moe Bandy, if you can imagine a kind of C&W Chas 'n' Dave, that's them!

Great LP cover!

 

[PaulB]

Talcy Malcky ordained it so. It was his way of combatting the evils of Dame Margaret.

 

[Cletus Van Damme]

Of course punk had to happen. Just think, the charts would still have been full of shite now if it hadn't been for punk!

They are still full of shite and have been for a very long time though, haven't they :?:

 

[Ludwig]

Punk was basically was what The New York Dolls, Iggy Pop etc were doing years earlier. There was a lot of good stuff in 1976 such as The Bellamy Brothers, Elton John and Kiki Dee, Peter Frampton, Bad Company, AC-DC, Black Sabbath, Uriah Heep, Hawkwind, Pink Floyd, Styx, Reo Sepedweagon.
Punk was a flash in the pan and and only the likes of The UK Subs and The Stranglers and The Jam had any lasting careers but had to re-invent themselves as mainstream pop acts.

 

[Fnaar]

Punk was a flash in the pan

I'm not sure history would agree with you there, Ludwig... I think it was hugely influential not just in terms of music, but of course in fashion, and also in pushing the boundaries back of all sorts of things. Maybe it's an age thing (don't know how old you are) but for me it coincided with my transition from adolescence into adulthood, and it had a massive influence on me personally informing my tastes in music, clothes, women, attitude, politics, all sorts of things.

 

[Archie_tect]

I was 16 in '76.

Punk had little if any direct influence on me or my local age-group around SE Leeds at all. [Our butcher's trainee was a punk with one of the first mohicans and safety pins pushed through his nose and ear, which went septic].

In the early days they were an irritating, gobby minority who loved the drama and sensationalism which they then played up to the media.

Once the mainstream took it on punk was portrayed- by the very establishment punks objected to [who then profited from it]- as the voice of the generation; how wrong can you be- but the history of punk has legitimised the myth which pervades today. Depends on which side of the fence you were at the time I suppose.

[Edit: spelling!]

 

[delb0y]

I was 13 in '76 and, The Pirates aside, my first gigs were punk gigs - X-Ray Spex, The Vibrators, The Depressions, even XTC whom I don't really consider punk, but I soon discovered I preferred Rory Gallagher and Jeff Beck and Frankie Miller and Little Feat and Frank Zappa and Neil Young and even early Springsteen and most definitely Tom Waits all of whom were strutting their stuff back then, IIRC, and would have no doubt continued to do what they were doing and what they subsequently did irrespective of punk. There are still one or two punk songs I like (Rich Kids springs to mind, as do a few Stranglers' songs, and from across the pond the Ramones have plenty of good stuff) but I agree that it was more about the freedom to do stuff oneself and to stick a couple of fingers up at the old guard rather than any major musical thing. I do recall enjoying New Model Amy on TOTP though. But then I also enjoyed Motorhead on TOTP. Anything was better than disco.


Kind regards,
Derek

 

[ian turner]

Why are you discussing a musical style that is 35 years old therefore old, past it and should shut up grandad coz it doesn't understand
Rock n Roll did the same thing 20 years prior to that after all

Apparently we are currently stuck recycling yesteryear according to this article which seems to make sense especially given the number of deluxe re-releases being shoved out.

You lot should stop waving your pipes around and talking about the old days

 

[Archie_tect]

OK Ian.

what's good to listen to now- need some informed input!

 

[Andy in Sig]

Why are you discussing a musical style that is 35 years old therefore old, past it and should shut up grandad coz it doesn't understand
Rock n Roll did the same thing 20 years prior to that after all

Apparently we are currently stuck recycling yesteryear according to this article which seems to make sense especially given the number of deluxe re-releases being shoved out.

You lot should stop waving your pipes around and talking about the old days

There's a lot in that article. There is so little which seems to be original at the moment. The most recent thing I've heard which struck me as being new and clever was a track by a band called The Fleet Foxes but to be honest that was just using folk-ish rhythms which you don't get to hear to often. I recently heard my first ever track by The Kings of Leon - sort of sub Bob Seeger (mid 70s) and he was only tolerable. Why on earth would anybody want to imitate the unremarkable?

I think the fundamental problem with pop is that there is only so much you can do with three chords, so my personal solution is to cherry pick the pop I like, listen to the odd bit of contemporary acoustic stuff e.g. Show Of Hands and stick with the masters of three chords i.e. the blues, blues-rock and jazz greats.

The real achievement of punk was to kill off bloated empty pop and so called rock which was just insubstantial pretentious bollocks e.g. Bowie, Queen etc.

 

[ian turner]

OK Ian.

what's good to listen to now- need some informed input!

I read that article the day after watching an Electroswing act the night before in Bethnal Green which is er
recycling the 20s/30s swing music

Punk killed off Bowie and Queen ? They just ended up revered grizzly old timers with no new ideas like Bowie.
Bowie and Queen continue to manufacture profits by recycling the old in ever expanding versions

 

[skids]

It had to happen for me as all TOTP offered was this shyte and my life changed when I heard Uncle John play this late one winter evening.

 

[Andy in Sig]

I read that article the day after watching an Electroswing act the night before in Bethnal Green which is er
recycling the 20s/30s swing music

Punk killed off Bowie and Queen ? They just ended up revered grizzly old timers with no new ideas like Bowie.
Bowie and Queen continue to manufacture profits by recycling the old in ever expanding versions

Well punk removed any vestige of credibility from the likes of Queen and Bowie (not that either could be said to have had much in the first place).