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Wiggo's comments on drugs doubters.
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Does this mean further discussion is not allowed?
Flying_Monkey
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Chuffy
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Must admit, I clicked on it thinking there was summat new.
There is this from todays press con, http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/wiggins-im-not-some-s-t-rider-who-has-come-from-nowhere - taking the i'm tested so much line, won't do much to silence the Lance comparisons.
Spokesmann
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Chuffy
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Chuffy
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Yes, but as a fan, don't you get sick of the same bullshit and lies from people like Landis, Rasmussen, Armstrong, Virenque etc etc etc? It might be annoying, but peanuts on Twitter are just a symptom.
This may just be Kimmage stirring again but I think he has a point http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/1...n-Wiggins-and-Team-Sky-over-transparency.aspx
lukesdad
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Is that like +1
festival
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What is the point of your post? You are talking bollocks.
You don't know him or his personality, thank god he speaks his mind.
What about the quiet type of person who keeps his head down and not only say's nothing to offend but basically say's nothing, like Ullrich, Heras, Basso and Rasmussen to name a few quiet guys who are proven cheats.
Chuffy
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Wheeling out Kimmage in a doping related story is like wheeling out Anne Widecombe in a debate about teenage morality, you know pretty much what he's going to say.
That said, he's been proven right many times before, even if he does come across as a chippy little arse, and he's right about Sky. They made a big thing about transparency and being clean when they started, they need to live up to that. If they need tips on how to do it properly they just need to look at Vaughters and Garmin.
Flying_Monkey
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Wiggins did volunteer his biological passport data in the past. And he took some crap from other riders for doing it. He hasn't this year.
Chuffy
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Blood profile from the 2009 Tour IIRC, which was nice, but of limited value. I don't recall anyone, ever, publishing a full suite of passport data.
Actually, blood data and power files are interesting. They often get suggested as the Holy Grail of transparency but the Clinic cynics won't believe anything at all, ever (and get very confused when you ask them what they would accept) and most fans won't understand the data. It's a bit like Eric Pickles and his endless bollocks about councils releasing data on all spending over £500. The theory was that it would unleash an army of armchair auditors who would righteously hold us pen-pushing bureaucrats to account. In practice all it did was give parasitic scum like the Taxpayers Alliance (maytheydieinafire) something to cherry-pick. In principle it's a good thing but it may not be as enlightening as people think.
Crap from other riders? I don't remember that.
dragon72
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The point of my post, which I think you either missed or misinterpreted, is that questions surrounding performance at the top level of professional cycling given its history are entirely understandable.
Also that Wiggins, being intelligent and professional, ought to understand that being open and welcoming to scrutiny is helpful to the honest (such as himself).
Being offensive (literally and verbally) towards people who ask questions about doping, albeit boring and hackneyed, isn't productive.
Nearly there
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Yes I get annoyed when people have been found to be cheating no one likes a cheater
