Howard
Senior Member
Ever been to Japan? This is actually how they roll. Cyclists ride on the pavement, and when on the road, they ride in the opposite direction to the traffic. For Real.
Woman condemned for helping illegal cyclists
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Ever been to Japan? This is actually how they roll. Cyclists ride on the pavement, and when on the road, they ride in the opposite direction to the traffic. For Real.
clarion
Guru
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- Exiled from Hyperborea
So, to summarise: A woman stopped people breaking the law, and the local press is outraged?
Are they a bit inbred in the Fens, or summat?
Are they a bit inbred in the Fens, or summat?
Vikeonabike
CC Neighbourhood Police Constable
- Location
- Bourne, Lincolnshire
Section 25 arrest...take them somewhere to prove identity..could be the police station, could be home, colud be a place of work.
Or was she obstructing a police officer?
marzjennings
Legendary Member
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- Houston, Texas, USA
She (the women warning cyclists) only did something I have done and will continue to do in the future. Same as flashing over drivers heading into a speed trap.
In fact she will have stopped and turned around cyclists riding in wrong direction without all the todo of a police operation. Maybe we should all start calling wolf, 'hey watch out, just saw a copper around the next corner.'
In fact she will have stopped and turned around cyclists riding in wrong direction without all the todo of a police operation. Maybe we should all start calling wolf, 'hey watch out, just saw a copper around the next corner.'
joebingo
Über Member
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- London, England
Or was she obstructing a police officer?
She was helping the police fulfill their duties, unless those duties are in fact to take £30 off miscreants and students.
(as respectfully as possible VOB, but you can see my point)
clarion
Guru
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- Exiled from Hyperborea
Thanks, Joebingo. You make my point nicely.
Vikeonabike
CC Neighbourhood Police Constable
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- Bourne, Lincolnshire
She was helping the police fulfill their duties, unless those duties are in fact to take £30 off miscreants and students.
(as respectfully as possible VOB, but you can see my point)
No trouble guys...just pointing out what some would consider to be another view point. In this case I would be of the opinion she believed she was "helping" as it disuades people from commiting an offence. Hopefully they would then stop using the route, knowing police could be there at any time.
As for warning motorists of Police by flashing, I consider it obstruction....you could be warning an uninsured driver /disqualified driver of police presence, which could result in them not getting caught. There is also the speeding question. Most roadside operations these days are ANPR / speed checks!
John Ponting
Guru
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- Herts
DrSquirrel
Guest
Maybe disgruntled people or undercover police should stand at the end of the road going "there's plod up there mate".
ComedyPilot
Secret Lemonade Drinker
- Location
- The Kingdom of Yorkshire
I only have contempt for people 'warning' people about police activity - be it speed 'traps' or cycle initiatives. Would the same people flash and wave if there wasn't a police presence?
No.
So the only reason is that they don't want people to get caught - or take responsibility for their actions.
Would the same people warning others be so 'charitable' if a loved one had been knocked down, run into or injured by a careless/inattentive/dangerous motorist?
I don't think so - hypocrites.
We regularly have a camera safety partnership van in our village, and sure enough the clowns flash away like pillocks. Too late, I already had a warning - the 30mph limit sign and the streetlights.
No.
So the only reason is that they don't want people to get caught - or take responsibility for their actions.
Would the same people warning others be so 'charitable' if a loved one had been knocked down, run into or injured by a careless/inattentive/dangerous motorist?
I don't think so - hypocrites.
We regularly have a camera safety partnership van in our village, and sure enough the clowns flash away like pillocks. Too late, I already had a warning - the 30mph limit sign and the streetlights.
Ranger
New Member
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- Fife borders
You have obviously never been to the Fens or you wouldn't need to ask that question, I grew up there and was the only kid in the class not related to someone else
ComedyPilot
Secret Lemonade Drinker
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- The Kingdom of Yorkshire
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Which will bring the greater benefit -someone being convicted of the offence, or someone being warned of what's around the corner?
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I (personally) think it is a three-fold issue, your two points, and my point that they wouldn't warn a speeding motorist if there were no police there.
Which will bring the greater benefit -someone being convicted of the offence, or someone being warned of what's around the corner?
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I (personally) think it is a three-fold issue, your two points, and my point that they wouldn't warn a speeding motorist if there were no police there.
snailracer
Über Member
A number of posters have drawn comparison with speed cameras and motorists.
Well, the official police line on speed cameras is that it's perfectly OK to be warned of their presence in advance of reaching them, because the speed camera locations are supposedly at accident blackspots, and so any warning is good. This is why satnav speed camera warnings are considered legitimate, not some dastardly scheme to obstruct law enforcement.
I leave it to individuals to decide how applicable this doctrine is to this thread.
I lived and cycled in Cambridge for 7 years, I never saw the cyclist mayhem that has been reported. IMO, the most dangerous people on Cambridge roads are bus drivers - they will tailgate/dangerously overtake cyclists with complete contemp - c*nts.
Well, the official police line on speed cameras is that it's perfectly OK to be warned of their presence in advance of reaching them, because the speed camera locations are supposedly at accident blackspots, and so any warning is good. This is why satnav speed camera warnings are considered legitimate, not some dastardly scheme to obstruct law enforcement.
I leave it to individuals to decide how applicable this doctrine is to this thread.
I lived and cycled in Cambridge for 7 years, I never saw the cyclist mayhem that has been reported. IMO, the most dangerous people on Cambridge roads are bus drivers - they will tailgate/dangerously overtake cyclists with complete contemp - c*nts.
2Loose
Guru
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- Loughborough, Leicestershire.
Most dangerous to others, probably...but far more frequently dangerous to themselves are students, particularly the foreign ones over for summer seminars.
You're not really publishing another point of view, you're publishing the point of view of the state through a tool of the state.
As for speed and other operations, the police publish in the local newspaper beforehand very prominently as well as etched road signs for many areas where they are repeatedly carried out. As far as I know they don't publish beforehand about cycling crack downs and I've never seen a road sign warning of a cycling clamp down.
