Woman thinks its funny to hold me and other traffic up on purpose

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It's not an MPV, and it actually looks like she was trying to allow the car opposite to cross in front of her. You then went around the outside stopping that being possible. I think her comment was perfectly deserved, if the Hyundai opposite had crossed you could have been pancaked. You also might want to pay less attention to rubbernecking and more on the road you're cycling down.

Verdict: you're a wally.
 
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Matthew_T

Matthew_T

"Young and Ex-whippet"
Its amazing how an outsider perspective can change your point of view isnt it? I have now learnt that even when I think that I am in the right and someone else is in the wrong, it can be changed around the other way from someone elses opinions.

I do admit that I was impatient but I doubt that the woman was actually letting the car opposite go.
 

MrHappyCyclist

Riding the Devil's HIghway
Location
Bolton, England
Even if your interpretation is correct, I think it is best to save the indignation for the drivers who actually put us in danger. If we rail at every wally on the road just because they annoyed us, it tends to dilute the important messages about the safety of cyclists. It also gives ammunition to the idiots who claim that all cyclists are arrogant gits who deserve everything they get.
 
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Matthew_T

"Young and Ex-whippet"
Even if your interpretation is correct, I think it is best to save the indignation for the drivers who actually put us in danger. If we rail at every wally on the road just because they annoyed us, it tends to dilute the important messages about the safety of cyclists. It also gives ammunition to the idiots who claim that all cyclists are arrogant gits who deserve everything they get.
Indeed. I now appologise for even starting this thread.
 
Its amazing how an outsider perspective can change your point of view isnt it? I have now learnt that even when I think that I am in the right and someone else is in the wrong, it can be changed around the other way from someone elses opinions.

I do admit that I was impatient but I doubt that the woman was actually letting the car opposite go.

Well they're in the same position as I would be if I was letting the person in front across - especially if I had a cyclist behind I wanted to make sure wasn't invisible to the car turning across.

I just watched the first video suggest "NDxxLWC collides with cyclist". You can quite clearly see the cyclist go when the car is moving through the lights, then you jump a red, the light changes, you cut across a junction without checking it's safe. Did they not do cycle safety at your primary school?

I think it's time to ditch the camera.
 
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Matthew_T

"Young and Ex-whippet"
I just watched the first video suggest "NDxxLWC collides with cyclist". You can quite clearly see the cyclist go when the car is moving through the lights, then you jump a red, the light changes, you cut across a junction without checking it's safe. Did they not do cycle safety at your primary school?
I am used to the lights sequence here. You can see the lights on the right hand side for the traffic turning right in both directions change to amber then to red. Yes I might have jumped the lights a little, but as you can see, my lights and the opposites changed to green straight after. Therefore there was no chance of a car coming across the junction at all because the side roads' lights were on red for the whole incident.
Just a little bit of common sense would have made that obvious.

EDIT: Just because I made an error in this video on this thread, doesnt mean you can start picking holes in my other videos. I will admit that I made a mistake in this situation of causing a situation where there wasnt one, but in the incident regarding the cyclist collision, I did nothing wrong. I may have jumped the lights a little, but I knew the sequence and I knew that the lights were changing in my favour. This is a large junction and the camera makes it bigger, therefore if there had been a car coming from another direction (why there would I dont know) then I would have noticed and caught it on camera if it collided with me.

With the drivers and incidents that happen in my area, it would be stupid to go cycling on the roads without some form of evidence of things happening. I have had so many incident with the police stating that my handlebar camera doesnt capture the whole incident that I am going to stick with a helmet cam until I get to a point that I feel safe enough not to need one.
 
I am used to the lights sequence here. You can see the lights on the right hand side for the traffic turning right in both directions change to amber then to red. Yes I might have jumped the lights a little, but as you can see, my lights and the opposites changed to green straight after. Therefore there was no chance of a car coming across the junction at all because the side roads' lights were on red for the whole incident.
Just a little bit of common sense would have made that obvious.

EDIT: Just because I made an error in this video on this thread, doesnt mean you can start picking holes in my other videos. I will admit that I made a mistake in this situation of causing a situation where there wasnt one, but in the incident regarding the cyclist collision, I did nothing wrong. I may have jumped the lights a little, but I knew the sequence and I knew that the lights were changing in my favour. This is a large junction and the camera makes it bigger, therefore if there had been a car coming from another direction (why there would I dont know) then I would have noticed and caught it on camera if it collided with me.

With the drivers and incidents that happen in my area, it would be stupid to go cycling on the roads without some form of evidence of things happening. I have had so many incident with the police stating that my handlebar camera doesnt capture the whole incident that I am going to stick with a helmet cam until I get to a point that I feel safe enough not to need one.

1. You cannot see the lights that the oncoming driver can see.
2. Sequences are subject to change.

A camera does not make you safer, in fact it seems to be that you're using it as some kind of false risk homeostasis. See the bolded text, it may as well say that it doesn't matter if you get hit if you have a camera.

I suggest for you it would be safer to not have the camera and treat cars with respect.
 

Hip Priest

Veteran
She was clearly pausing to allow the oncoming car to turn in, which is very courteous of her. You should've waited behind her IMHO. Is this the first recorded case of 'Must pass car' syndrome?

The fact you initially read it as some sort of malicious act aimed at you suggests at best poor road sense, and at worst a degree of paranoia.

The comment she made may not even have been aimed at you, but the oncoming driver, who failed to heed her signal and remained in position.
 

Paul_L

Über Member
[quote="Matthew_T, post: 1880060, member: 17087"
EDIT: Just because I made an error in this video on this thread, doesnt mean you can start picking holes in my other videos. I will admit that I made a mistake in this situation of causing a situation where there wasnt one, but in the incident regarding the cyclist collision, I did nothing wrong. I may have jumped the lights a little, but I knew the sequence and I knew that the lights were changing in my favour. This is a large junction and the camera makes it bigger, therefore if there had been a car coming from another direction (why there would I dont know) then I would have noticed and caught it on camera if it collided with me.

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Imagine the wrath a car driver who made such a claim would suffer had he knocked over a cyclist or pedestrian under similar circumstances.

Any assessments you make about knowing the sequence and knowing what the other lights and traffic streams are doing are pure guesswork. You jumped the lights end of.
 

Dan B

Disengaged member
Are you sure that she was not listening to something funny on the radio? These things can happy.

I was on the train the other day trying to remove something from my eye, and after removing the offending object blinked my right eye several times.

Little did I know that sitting across on the other side of the carriage there was a middle aged woman (I think Cougar is the new age hip term). Who thought I was giving her the come on by winking at her. I politely explained that I was removing something from my eye and no more was said on the matter.

The moral of the story. These things happen,and happen they do, sometimes not in the way which we construe. Let it go and get on with life.

She was extremely attractive though. She could have made an utterly boring train commute into a quite memorable one.
Add an anecdote about motorcycle couriering and you could be the next Boris Bajic
 

400bhp

Guru
My choice of words in these situations is never the best. I can never think quick enough on my feet to come up with a comment which will get my point across as well as calm the situation. For that reason, I felt it necessary to shout "Idiot" when I could have said "Dont be rude".

Or you could have waited paitently behind her and none of this shenanigans would ahve happened.

She now no doubt thinks all cyclists have sticks up their arses.
 

400bhp

Guru
Its amazing how an outsider perspective can change your point of view isnt it? I have now learnt that even when I think that I am in the right and someone else is in the wrong, it can be changed around the other way from someone elses opinions.

I do admit that I was impatient but I doubt that the woman was actually letting the car opposite go.

You don't drive do you.
 
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