Wooden mudguards.

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Tomorrow I'm going to make the jig and steamer so that I can start producing wooden mudguards:biggrin: I've already planed down the thin strips of well seasoned english ash.

You will of course be the first to know how I get on.
 

GrahamNR17

New Member
Location
Norfolk, UK
Wooden? :biggrin:

As in, for ordinary bikes? Or are they something for restoring hobbyhorse type stuff?

Sounds really intriguing! :ohmy:
 

BlueDog

Veteran
Location
Somerset
I am equally intrigued and admire your creativity, but why :ohmy: ? - With all the rain about these day, is this in the quest of a floatable bike :biggrin: ?

Anyway, good luck and I really look forward to seeing the results :laugh:
 
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Hilldodger

Hilldodger

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sunny Leicester

BlueDog

Veteran
Location
Somerset
Oh I see. I hadn't heard of wooden mudguards before, but having read your reply and done a bit of Googling, it sounds like you've got an interesting project on you hands:smile:

Good luck and I hope you will keep us posted with progress. In the meantime, here's a nice bike photo with wooden mudguards from the www .....
 

alecstilleyedye

nothing in moderation
Moderator
BlueDog said:
Oh I see. I hadn't heard of wooden mudguards before, but having read your reply and done a bit of Googling, it sounds like you've got an interesting project on you hands:smile:

Good luck and I hope you will keep us posted with progress. In the meantime, here's a nice bike photo with wooden mudguards from the www .....

not sure about the egg-beaters on that thing though…
 

longers

Legendary Member
That is a nice looking bike Bluedog.

I'm also interested to hear and see how you get on with your project Hilldodger, you could make your fortune out of this.
 

Wobbly John

Veteran
I tried laminating some a couple of years ago, but they came out of the mould slightly twisted. :laugh:

We made a steamer up at work for steaming timber - a length of 4" waste pipe with ends, and connected it to a wallpaper-stripping steamer - worked quite well, but the plastic pipe needs support as it sags a bit.

I'm thinking about trying to do another set, by putting the glued laminations between the inner tube and tyre & pumping them up to apply pressure. Hopefully there'll be enough spring to turn out the correct size - if not I'll have to try to borrow a 29er wheel.
 

Wobbly John

Veteran
Plywood - We had routered out a circle for a glass centred table top, and I routered another cut at wheel radius, in the waste bit, so that I had a hoop and a disc. Put laminations in about half of it then used wedges in the opposite half to apply pressure.

I hadn't pre-steamed them to shape and it turned out twisted, probably because of the difficulty handling strips of springy wood covered in epoxy.
 

Arch

Married to Night Train
Location
Salford, UK
Wobbly John said:
I tried laminating some a couple of years ago, but they came out of the mould slightly twisted. :biggrin:

Come on, I know you. Surely you then made a bike with slightly twisted wheels and frame to fit them?:smile:

Anyway, good luck with them Rog, I look forward to seeing the results.
 

Night Train

Maker of Things
When laminating and steam bending wood you do need to be aware of the grain of the wood. Avoiding areas of short grain and twisted or wild grain helps ensure that the result is closer to a true curve.

In terms of laminating the spring back is dependent on the number of laminations.
This is the equation.

Percent of spring back = 100 x [1÷(N²-1)]

where N = the number of laminations.
This equation can be found on: http://davewoodshop.homestead.com/coldbending.html
and on other internet sites.

This can also be expressed as :

r = R÷(N²-1)
where:
R is the radius of the former
R+r is the radius of your finished work
N is the number of laminations

Steam bending is more forgiving as you can over bend the wood and then relax the bend a bit if it is too tight by opening it out a little.

There is a short period of time when the cooling timber is still a little 'adjustable' when it comes out of the mould. When it has cooled properly it will be pretty much fixed.
You can re steam it but you will need to make a curved steam pipe to take it.
 

stevew

Well-Known Member
Location
Orpington
Hi Hilldodger,

Did you ever suceed in producing these for sale ?
I'm looking for a short rear one that fits on the rear brake mounting.
 
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