Would you spend a night here on your own??

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Baggy

Cake connoisseur
XmisterIS said:
I would *love* to re-develop that place! Turn it into luxury flats; the huge ballroom's vaulted ceiling would make a excellent open-plan penthouse with a mezzanine interior balcony at the height of the bottoms of the windows.
Sadly it's so badly decayed the majority is going to be demolished and new development stuck there ;) A few bits will be renovated but the majority is too badly decayed, what a shame.

They'l probably have a tasteful name for the new development...

I'd rather spend the night there as it is now than live in a new development there.
 
Shaun said:
Looking at this photo reminds you that they took cleanliness and hygiene far more seriously then than they do in today's filthy hospitals

I'm afraid I have to disagree with you there. The house keeping staff do an absolutely sterling job keeping our department clean, and modern understanding of infection control is light years ahead of pre-twentieth century practices. Reading up on old style operating theatres where doctors didn't even wash their hands before putting them inside you compared to climate controlled, positive air pressure theatres where even the air is aseptic and almost everything is disposable there really is no comparison.
While mistakes have been made with trusts trying to save money contracting out to the lowest bidder the rate of HAIs is more attributable to the emergence of multi-resistant strains in the general population than 'filthy' hospitals.
 

rich p

ridiculous old lush
Location
Brighton
I cycled past Hellingly hospital yesterday. The Hellingly 10k used to start and finish there and the gardens were wonderful. I was always tempted to go there and dig up some of the shrubs.
 

bad boy

Über Member
Location
London
automatic_jon said:
I'm afraid I have to disagree with you there. The house keeping staff do an absolutely sterling job keeping our department clean, and modern understanding of infection control is light years ahead of pre-twentieth century practices. Reading up on old style operating theatres where doctors didn't even wash their hands before putting them inside you compared to climate controlled, positive air pressure theatres where even the air is aseptic and almost everything is disposable there really is no comparison.
While mistakes have been made with trusts trying to save money contracting out to the lowest bidder the rate of HAIs is more attributable to the emergence of multi-resistant strains in the general population than 'filthy' hospitals.


As an out patient for 19 years I regularly visit hospitals unfortunately, and I would have to say the places are filthy some worse than others granted.

I don't know how many times Panorama needs to go undercover but its there for everyone to see.

Its easy to check you can view the hospital/trust stats on line.
 
bad boy said:
As an out patient for 19 years I regularly visit hospitals unfortunately, and I would have to say the places are filthy some worse than others granted.

I don't know how many times Panorama needs to go undercover but its there for everyone to see.

Its easy to check you can view the hospital/trust stats on line.

Would you say that through your experiences over the last 19 years the cleanliness has been getting better or worse, or worse and then improving again, which has been my experience I think. Viewing it from the other side of the desk as it were I think I can see where people's criticisms come from but it does smack of tabloid reactionism when they undermine the good work that hospitals do in the area.
I must be lucky, the trusts at which I train are always rated well when it comes to national audits and league tales.
 

JtB

Prepare a way for the Lord
Location
North Hampshire
I would never have believed it if I hadn't witnessed it for myself, but some hospitals in the UK are bordering on 3rd world in terms of hygiene. In Spain for example the hospitals I've seen are regularly disinfected and kept gleaming at all times. In the UK how can you disinfect a hospital with carpets on the floors for example? When a member of my family recently spent several months in a UK hospital, I witnessed appalling cleaning standards indeed. The occasional vacuuming of carpets and absolute filth accumulating under the beds and in all the corners - most hotels I've stayed in are maintained to a much higher level of cleanliness.

I'm sorry, but my personnel experience of hospitals in this country is one of disgust.
 

XmisterIS

Purveyor of fine nonsense
Baggy said:
Sadly it's so badly decayed the majority is going to be demolished and new development stuck there ;) A few bits will be renovated but the majority is too badly decayed, what a shame.

They'l probably have a tasteful name for the new development...

I'd rather spend the night there as it is now than live in a new development there.

Surely it can be stripped to a brick shell and they can build up from there?

If I had the money (or the collateral required to raise the money!) I would deffo buy a place like that and renovate.
 

bad boy

Über Member
Location
London
automatic_jon said:
Would you say that through your experiences over the last 19 years the cleanliness has been getting better or worse, or worse and then improving again, which has been my experience I think. Viewing it from the other side of the desk as it were I think I can see where people's criticisms come from but it does smack of tabloid reactionism when they undermine the good work that hospitals do in the area.
I must be lucky, the trusts at which I train are always rated well when it comes to national audits and league tales.

Thats certainly an interesting thought I would say worse and then improving again. I do agree regarding the tabloid reactionism thats why I mentioned the fact I am a very regular visitor and my opinions are first hand.

Ive got to say I am now at the Royal Free in Hampstead and its an absolutely fantastic hospital in terms of the care provided etc but it needed to improve the hygiene standards which it is doing.
 
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