YeGods! What speed do you have to be doing...

[Linford]

Oh you're talking about the road AFTER the accident that has no bearing on it, sorry I thought what you were twittering on about was relevant.

But we are now off topic, so in true DD style, I'm out.

Alan...

0-10 for observation in what i posted. There are expansion joints on the motorway road surface where the underpass beams meet the road. You feel them all the time very much on a motorbike when riding at the limit..but may well also when tanking along in a car...as i said, it caused a single vehicle crash near me a few years ago and the car ended up down the embankment.
0-10 for not acknowledging that these things on the roads can create problems....possibly the same issue for the driver of this white car

 

[ayceejay]

I had that happen to a Morris Ital and it wasn't moving at all.

 

[Andy_R]

I had that happen to a Morris Ital and it wasn't moving at all.

If it was a Morris Ital, it wasn't cut in half by a road sign, it just fell apart.

 

[Linford]

[QUOTE 2842834, member: 45"]No, the joint won't have caused the crash unless it was faulty. It may have been a contributing factor buy something else will have happened.[/quote]

Usually the case, but if it is a contributory factor, then that would indicate that without its influence, it wouldn't have happened. If you get your scoot you will understand within a few weeks where I'm coming from.

 

[ayceejay]

If it was a Morris Ital, it wasn't cut in half by a road sign, it just fell apart.

Is this new for 2014 - joke deconstruction?

 

[Andy_R]

Is this new for 2014 - joke deconstruction?

no, it's solidarity...I had one too...that ended in two....

 

[Linford]

[QUOTE 2842901, member: 45"]She was in a car, silly. And driving poorly.

And do be quiet with the competitive junk. I could take you on any two-wheeler, any time. While smoking a pipe and shelling pistachios.[/quote]

Competitive...me ?
I'm a proper chicken on a PTW at this time of year. I'm not making any claims other than what I am experiencing pretty much every time I take it out at this time of year. Many people on litre class bike won't take theirs out at all between Nov and April as it is just too risky.

I'm just saying you feel it a lot more on PTW's than on a bicycle.

 

[Bollo]

is the car in the OP a Porsche?

Aye, it could well be a Cayenne but I wouldn't swear to it, such is the damage. 5 spoke wheels are pretty much the best clue as the rear end could be any number of large SUVs. No idea how you do that to a Cayenne short of driving it into a crusher.

 

[Linford]

Aye, it could well be a Cayenne but I wouldn't swear to it, such is the damage. 5 spoke wheels are pretty much the best clue as the rear end could be any number of large SUVs. No idea how you do that to a Cayenne short of driving it into a crusher.

I thought it might actually be a latest model Ford Focus judging by the rear light cluster

 

[mark st1]

I'm going for a Lexus.

 

[asterix]

Is it not a Mitsubishi Lancer? Sportback?

 

[Bollo]

I'm going for a Lexus.

Good call. Whatever it was, that isn't going to polish out.

 

[GrasB]

YeGods! What speed do you have to be doing... ...to do this to a car?

About 40mph & hit something very narrow just in front the B pillar, or behind if you have rear doors. A tree or pole of about 15cm diameter is more than good enough for the job.

See this:

View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJA7V4YyQCI

That car had a full roll cage in it which dramatically increases the side impact strength of a car.

 

[mark st1]

I'm no expert but I reckon your man in that clip was doing a bit more than 40 ! He came round that corner like a bleeding rally driver

 

[GrasB]

I'm no expert but I reckon your man in that clip was doing a bit more than 40 ! He came round that corner like a bleeding rally driver

I make that car traveling at 18-20m/s, or 41-45mph, in the car width before it hits the tree, assuming the video is at the correct frame rate the first time through & my visual markers are correct. It's actually surprising how slow cars are travelling in a rally.

I've seen side impact tests show a 'caged car to be 3 times more resistant to massive side impacts like that. Though for a rally car the door is probably the weakest point as that is where the hole to allow the driver to get in & out is. That said, there will still be a lot more strength there than just the stock chassis alone.