Sorry - all I wanted to do was to agree with you and say I too didn't want to go on a ride that wasn't TMN-able. Please forgive if the way I said that was clumsy.OK, I am going to try very very hard not to feel deeply patronised by a lot of that.
Yes - there has been some creep on some rides to expect more than that. I've done some and you avoided them - quite rightly imo. I didn't enjoy them (though like some gym work seeing where your breaking limit is useful). Tough sections are acceptable if its a particular hill like Ditchling. It is unacceptable if its two Ditchlings a day for a week. We have to accept that sometimes to do a great ride its unavoidable that a hill is involved or a rather longer distance between two towns is inevitable. Its unfortunate when the two coincide. For those that can do that great but the inclusiveness is that walking a hill with pride is also welcome. As long as its the exception not the rule. I mean you and me might not enjoy that day but we win as long as its the exception not the rule whereas the speedy boys might only be enjoying the exceptions rather than the rule.
The point you make is very important. How to ensure the leaders who inevitably will have above average endurance calibrate the acceptance level so that new riders and less strong riders can enjoyably grow into long distance touring with the FNRttC.
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