10 things cyclists wish drivers understood.

[Venod]

This popped up on Facebook.

Some very good advice here, I like number 9

https://www.cyclescheme.co.uk/commu...ce=10-Things-cyclists-wish-drivers-understood

 

[Shut Up Legs]

It's preaching to the converted, and wasted on the motorists, because the obstinately anti-cyclist motorists are hardly going to visit a cycle scheme site.

 

[greekonabike]

I think the point about close passes is quite interesting. "To any driver who thinks it's safe, try this: go to a railway station and stand inside the yellow line at the platform edge when a high-speed train is passing through. That's what it's like when someone in a car passes too close." I wonder if anyone would actually try that.

GOAB

 

[ianrauk]

I think the point about close passes is quite interesting. "To any driver who thinks it's safe, try this: go to a railway station and stand inside the yellow line at the platform edge when a high-speed train is passing through. That's what it's like when someone in a car passes too close." I wonder if anyone would actually try that.

GOAB

No because as Shut Up Legs quite rightly points out. No driver is going to read it. Let alone act on it.

 

[greekonabike]

No because as Shut Up Legs quite rightly points out. No driver is going to read it. Let alone act on it.

Yeah that's a good point.

GOAB

 

[Drago]

British Cycling, gawd luv 'em, reckon something like 80% of cyclists have a drivers licence, so most drivers already know these things.

That leaves a few chumps with bigger mouths than brains, and they'll neither listen to nor care about such arguments.

Ignore the idiots, move on, enjoy life.

 

[glasgowcyclist]

"But all cyclists don't jump red lights and all drivers don't speed."

Am I being pedantic when I say that the above sentence conveys the idea that no cyclists jump red lights and no drivers speed?

 

[KneesUp]

British Cycling, gawd luv 'em, reckon something like 80% of cyclists have a drivers licence, so most drivers already know these things.

That leaves a few chumps with bigger mouths than brains, and they'll neither listen to nor care about such arguments.

Ignore the idiots, move on, enjoy life.

It may be that 80% of cyclists have a driving licence, ergo one can assume that most cyclists know what it is like to drive. However you can't say "most drivers already know these things [about cycling]" without knowing what percentage of drivers have experience of cycling on the roads.

 

[tallliman]

A good article really. My key point from that is point 6....when I look at much literature about cycling and safety, there's an assumption that we are all doing 5-10mph when a proportion (likely many on here) cruise above 15mph. I've often felt this is one of the issues that people don't realise when trying to overtake/make a turning.

 

[Jon George]

"But all cyclists don't jump red lights and all drivers don't speed."
Am I being pedantic when I say that the above sentence conveys the idea that no cyclists jump red lights and no drivers speed?

No, you are not - the two uses of the word 'don't' should be removed and the word 'not' inserted before both uses of 'all' for clarity. But I'll still be posting the link on Facebook.

 

[MontyVeda]

I think the HC should reword this...

Highway Code Rule 163 tells drives to 'give motorcyclists, cyclists and horse riders at least as much room as you would when overtaking a car'

...it's too ambiguous. Plenty of drivers will over take a parked car with only inches between their mirrors. Moving cars they'll give more space to, but often only a couple of feet. I don't mind two feet between me and a Punto, but truck or lorry, I'd be happier with more space.

 

[srw]

No because as Shut Up Legs quite rightly points out. No driver is going to read it. Let alone act on it.

A good third to a half of people who are of an age to have a driving licence also own a bike. And a third of people cycle at least occasionally. Which also means that just about every driver in the country will know someone who has a bike extremely well. So I reckon the strategy is right on the money. If they're also going into secondary schools, which are chockful of people who have bikes and who are about to learn to drive - so much the better.

 

[Drago]

It may be that 80% of cyclists have a driving licence, ergo one can assume that most cyclists know what it is like to drive. However you can't say "most drivers already know these things [about cycling]" without knowing what percentage of drivers have experience of cycling on the roads.

I can say it. I just did.

We know the majority of drivers are ok. There is a minority of cretins out there who either drive like twots, or gob off their anti cycling mouths, or both. I can also say they won't care about anything we have to say, or take the time the read any mythbusting links.

As aforementioned by a fellow CC'er - this is preaching to the choir.

 

[KneesUp]

I can say it. I just did.

Your sentence had an statement of (rough) fact at the start and a conclusion at the end. Unfortunately the conclusion was nothing to do with the (rough) fact. You can't just make stuff up and be taken seriously. Ask America. Oh no, wait ...

As aforementioned by a fellow CC'er - this is preaching to the choir.

I know atheists who are in church choirs because they like singing. I'm not sure what conclusion we can draw re: preaching to choirs

 

[Drago]

Whatever. I still said it.