2 Things I would change...
- Thread starter Boris Bajic
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The romans, ancient greeks, heck even the british (I seem to remember 
) , used to get prisoners of war to build/maintain the road network. Who we gonna get? "Traffic Jam Busters Teams" 
You jumped that red light, now go fill that pot hole!
.... I'll get my cat, head to bed, then ....
) , used to get prisoners of war to build/maintain the road network. Who we gonna get? "Traffic Jam Busters Teams" You jumped that red light, now go fill that pot hole!
.... I'll get my cat, head to bed, then ....
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Ban all road vehicles and lets go back to horses, barges and canals, trams, ok lets keep the buses for the oldies.
Then we can have the roads to cycle,everyone will get fitter,less health problems, the N.H.S will be able to treat
people who genuinely need it rather than help the self inflicted.
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Zero tolerance to litter louts,street drinkers and potheads.
Ban all road vehicles and lets go back to horses, barges and canals, trams, ok lets keep the buses for the oldies.
Then we can have the roads to cycle,everyone will get fitter,less health problems, the N.H.S will be able to treat
people who genuinely need it rather than help the self inflicted.
2.
Zero tolerance to litter louts,street drinkers and potheads.
GrumpyGregry
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Boris Bajic
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While both of the above may appear positive changes in the absence of human inertia, I believe that both would discourage potential new cyclists from entering the fray. I may be wrong.
However, I cannot think of a single instance in my 40+years of cycling and 30+ of driving when a road user has bemoaned the lack of cycle registration or cycle insurance - or indeed claimed that an issue they faced would have been solved by either measure.
I'm sure many road users can think of such an issue, but I can't.
All my children started to ride on the roads (accompanied) when they were about seven. How would I get insurance for an unguided seven-year-old missile on Her Majesty's Highway?
For all that, I think it would be good if the Police were empowered to confiscate any cycles they came across on the road that failed to conform to a set list of measures of mechanical readiness and in-place safety equipment. Not an annual MoT test... Just a published list of required condition and the authority to remove from the road any cycles that failed to conform.
However, if we added something like that to the list, then either absence of Hi-Viz or my choice of the dining-room wallpaper would have to go.
So that motorists can report cyclists that do not obey the highway code just as easily as cyclists do etc.
GrumpyGregry
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Oh.come.on. What are the polis going to do, come round and tell me off for not wearing hi-viz?
1) reporting errant drivers isn't easy in most places. It isn't even welcomed by polis in most places.
2) once reported only a tiny % of drivers get given a talking to/letter
3) of that tiny % only a tinier % get prosecuted
It's not as if having a registration plate acts as any sort of deterrence to drivers' law breaking.
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I see there is some levelling of an imaginary playing field in this proposal, but it would make not one billionth of a smidgin of a difference to me as either a driver or a cyclist.
Like Greg Collins, I fail to see any benefit.
A database would take squillions of hours to establish and maintain; plates would be endlessly transferred between bikes and fakes would be made. It would be hard to design a format both legible from a reasonable distance and not likely to get in the way of rack, mudguard, lights, bum etc....
I think this idea is unworkable. I recall as a 15-year-old in France riding a mobylette and not being required to have a licence or a bike with a registration plate. Does that system still exist in France? By law I had to wear a helmet, but didn't. As I recall, many moped riders went without.
Sorry, the last bit was OT, but it somehow reinforces the point about registering bicycles being unworkable and without benefit.
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Although I agree with you in the idea being unworkable, you'd be surprised how badly many of us would drive if not kept in check by having identifying markers on our vehicles.
Sure, many drivers break the law anyway... but you might be surprised by the number who would do so if anonymity were guaranteed.
GrumpyGregry
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only if they can instantly confiscate and crush motor vehicles they come across on the roads that fail to conform to a set list of measures of mechanical wotsit and in-place doodah (and as I'm Taliban; to include having all bulbs working correctly.)
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1829652 said:
Who are you calling a droll? :troll:
