20mph limits, to be enforced by cameras too!
What do you think?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7046200.stm
What do you think?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7046200.stm
I have no problem with that.
I quite agree, there is something peculiar about some nationalities, the British included, whereby we seem to have largely accepted the ascendancy of the car as the only way to get about.Go somewhere where the road culture has accepted that roads aren't just for cars and you'll see the difference.
VBC, erm.... did you read the original post?vbc said:Road safety advisors call for 20 mph limit in town centres to reduce accident rates.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7046200.stm
So who started first, so we can spend several posts berating the other for not doing a 'search' firstSorry, I should have said. VBC started an identical thread, so I merged the two. I couldn't find the bit where you could put in an explanation.
This would undoubtedly reduce the number of deaths drastically. The politically correct mumbo-jumbo liberal brigade will whinge that "civil liberties are being eroded" and that "rights are being trampled on", but it's for everyone's benefit.If the gov want less accidents then paint more pedestrian crossings and make them the only place to legally cross roads.
Roads are for cars, Pavements are for children, the quicker parents teach this to their children the safer they would be, a spped limit will not stop all drivers from going too fast. People should take responsibilty for there own saftey in this world.
So where do cyclists go then?bonj said:Roads are for cars, Pavements are for children, the quicker parents teach this to their children the safer they would be, a spped limit will not stop all drivers from going too fast. People should take responsibilty for there own saftey in this world.
well, on the road of course. They are vehicles after all.magnatom said:So where do cyclists go then?![]()
Ah but you said you agreed with this guys comments and he said Roads are for carsbonj said:well, on the road of course. They are vehicles after all.
Trouble is that unless we really design in pedestrian crosses at appropriate places, its unworkable. That would mean a radical redesign of our road/pedestrian/crossing network. I'm up for it, but I don't believe for a moment that the motorists putting this forward are up for it.bonj said:This would undoubtedly reduce the number of deaths drastically. The politically correct mumbo-jumbo liberal brigade will whinge that "civil liberties are being eroded" and that "rights are being trampled on", but it's for everyone's benefit.
People maybe will be distracted by their speedo but they will still have much more time to brake and research in other countries have prove its worked, reduced accident rates."All you achieve by making people drive down the road looking at their speedometer is 10 times as many deaths and that's before you cause more accidents because people aren't looking where they're going".
a survey by the Transport Research Laboratory of 20mph zones across the UK and in other European countries found child road accidents fell by 67%, cyclist accidents by 29% and traffic flow by 27%
Doesn't currently, so probably not.Patrick Stevens said:Will it apply to bikes as well?