28 Hole Hubs.

[sackville d]

I don't think anybody is saying 28 spokes makes a bad wheel or something wrong with them

28 spokes on the front wheel too?

It is what I`ll be going for.Do you have an opinion on which are the best spokes RRSODL ?. The nipples will be brass.

 

[jdtate101]

I used a pair of 21/20 spoke wheels on the Paris-Roubaix Challenge (all 28 sections of Pave) with no issues at all...nuff said. If they are strong enough to deal with that with me on board (at 85kg), then you at 70kg will be just fine for low spoke counts. Rims & materials are much stronger than they used to be so unless you're doing touring or commuting, where you may have to ride with a broken spoke for a bit, then lower counts are just fine.

 

[Spoked Wheels]

I used a pair of 21/20 spoke wheels on the Paris-Roubaix Challenge (all 28 sections of Pave) with no issues at all...nuff said. If they are strong enough to deal with that with me on board (at 85kg), then you at 70kg will be just fine for low spoke counts. Rims & materials are much stronger than they used to be so unless you're doing touring or commuting, where you may have to ride with a broken spoke for a bit, then lower counts are just fine.

I used to ride a set of Shimano 550 with 20 and 16 spokes and I was over 110kg.... would they last? No. The keyword in the question was DURABILITY. By the way, those wheels are heavier than a 36 spokes set I'm building today. They look great and for a lighter rider they would be very good. Having said that, the rear wheel went out of true but trying to true it is a nightmare. The nipples are on the hub side and they take a very small key. I wouldn't try to fix a wheel like that again, even if they pay me.

I think the benchmark is that a purpose built wheel should be able to be re-rimmed and more than once. An under specified wheel would very likely fail well before that... how soon will depend on how under specified and how well the wheel was built.

I'd suggest to ask Harry Roland to build you a 28 spokes set for durability

 

[jdtate101]

The 550's are junk so not really a good example. The set I used in my example are Campag Scirocco CX35's and are really bombproof. I've also used a set of RS10's for cyclocross and they were fine too. I did have a set of 32 spoke CXP22 rims and they broke spokes all the time, so it's not really to do with the amount of holes, rather the materials and build quality.

 

[downfader]

The 550's are junk so not really a good example. The set I used in my example are Campag Scirocco CX35's and are really bombproof. I've also used a set of RS10's for cyclocross and they were fine too. I did have a set of 32 spoke CXP22 rims and they broke spokes all the time, so it's not really to do with the amount of holes, rather the materials and build quality.

When I got my Genesis some of the spokes on the factory wheel kept breaking. Its down to overtensioning in the factory. Cheap spokes can break though,that is rare to a degree .

 

[Spoked Wheels]

The 550's are junk so not really a good example. The set I used in my example are Campag Scirocco CX35's and are really bombproof. I've also used a set of RS10's for cyclocross and they were fine too. I did have a set of 32 spoke CXP22 rims and they broke spokes all the time, so it's not really to do with the amount of holes, rather the materials and build quality.

If you say so You seem to know best

EDIT:

At the back of my mind I seemed to remember that my wheels WH-R550 and yours WH-RS10 were at the same level and not much difference between them. Mine were probably first out in the market, copying Dura-Ace 7800 technology. www.velospec.com/components/shimano/whr550
Can I ask where you got your information that the R550 were yunk but the RS10 aren't?

I'm just a newbie in terms of wheel building but I can't stop wondering where would Harry Roland ask you to go if you asked for a set of wheels with your confident views on what is a bombproof wheel. My guess is that he's heard it all before and he no longer entertains these "experts"