52% support Highway Code retest every 10 years

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HMS_Dave

Grand Old Lady
Don't know who you're referring to as "us" but the majority of the UK population (74%) own a laptop. The vast majority of laptops have webcams.
And 95% own a smartphone of which almost all have a camera which, if it wasn't obvious, is also suitable for a similar identity check.

But I suspect you know all this and are arguing for its own sake.

That may be true. And my dear old mom owns a Laptop. But i once had to help her make a video call to a family member as she failed at the first hurdle. She didn't realise that the webcam switch was off, as Lenovo laptops have. It just doesn't come naturally to all folk.
 

Dogtrousers

Lefty tighty. Get it righty.
I have a laptop, but the camera is insufficient to support Windows Hello. I don't have an iPhone and my Android phone uses fingerprint authentication. So I have no idea if I have appropriate hardware.
 
Location
Widnes
I have a laptop, but the camera is insufficient to support Windows Hello. I don't have an iPhone and my Android phone uses fingerprint authentication. So I have no idea if I have appropriate hardware.

I have never seen an Android phone that is advanced enough to have fingerprint authentication and does not have a decent camera

so you probably do have the hardware
 

Dadam

Über Member
Location
SW Leeds
So in summary, online theory retesting is entirely doable and there are known methods to mitigate exam fraud. The majority of the driving age population do own the kit to do a real time face ID check, and there would still be the option to attend a physical test centre, for those who don't have the kit, or just preference.
 

Dadam

Über Member
Location
SW Leeds
I have a laptop, but the camera is insufficient to support Windows Hello. I don't have an iPhone and my Android phone uses fingerprint authentication. So I have no idea if I have appropriate hardware.

You could still do a live P9 style check. You submit a photo of your photo ID, then you record a short video of yourself saying something (like your date of birth) and a human checks your face in the video matches your photo ID.
 

nogoodnamesleft

Well-Known Member
I have a laptop, but the camera is insufficient to support Windows Hello. I don't have an iPhone and my Android phone uses fingerprint authentication. So I have no idea if I have appropriate hardware.
So once every 10 years you have to call in at eg local library or maybe local council offices or local driving test centre to use one of their computers dedicated to the HC re-test.

As any costs are minor on every 10 years maybe come opticians might like to be paid to have a computer to allow people to take the test (maybe at the same time as having their eyes tested), etc.
 
So Idris could get a wax dummy to take his test for him. Yay! That's a win! Of sorts.

Now you put it like that ...
 

Sharky

Legendary Member
Location
Kent
Wonder what will happen in 20 years time (if I'm lucky), we'll all be in driverless cars. Will we even need a licence? Presumably, it will be impossible to break the speed limits.

All the revenue from speed cameras will be no more. No doubt, there will be another tax introduced to compensate.
 
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Ming the Merciless

There is no mercy
Location
Inside my skull
So in summary, online theory retesting is entirely doable and there are known methods to mitigate exam fraud

All we have seen so far is an initial identity check. What checks are there to ensure no other devices or browser windows are being used to answer questions and that no one else is present providing answers?
 

Dadam

Über Member
Location
SW Leeds
All we have seen so far is an initial identity check. What checks are there to ensure no other devices or browser windows are being used to answer questions and that no one else is present providing answers?

You could go all the way to remote test proctoring where you have to have webcam on throughout the test to make sure you're not cheating. Lots of online exams do this. I've sat certifications exams like this myself.

To prevent more you'd need some kind of online real time exam proctoring, as I mentioned.

As I've said (3 times now): Remote Exam Proctoring

https://www.pearsonvue.com/us/en/test-takers/onvue-online-proctoring.html
https://proctorexam.com/
https://www.autoproctor.co/

You have your camera on throughout the test, pointing at you. At the start of the test the proctor asks you to pan round the room, to ensure there's nobody else there and there are no extra screens in sight. Either a human monitors you throughout, or AI monitors you for e.g. looking away from the screen a lot then alerts a human proctor.

As I said, I have personally sat tests like this
 

Alex321

Guru
Location
South Wales
I have a laptop, but the camera is insufficient to support Windows Hello. I don't have an iPhone and my Android phone uses fingerprint authentication. So I have no idea if I have appropriate hardware.

You do.

there isn't an android phone with fingerprint recognition that doesn't also have a suitable forward facing camera.
 
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