A pavement parking odyssey

[raleighnut]

The trouble is times have changed since 1946.Where i live two housing estates were built 1946-7-8-9.Cars were like hen's teeth.Since the 50's a shopping centre,private estates library doctors surgery schools ,families now have two to four cars,the roads have not been made wider.Driveways were not built on the council estates,,but gawd help them getting scratched,plus anti social behaviour so more and more take them off the road,and foot the rest of you.

Yep for every 'Dropped Kerb' that's a parking space lost on the road.
Similar to Maz's house, the estate was built in 1950-51 but apparently now they are desirable as the house is set 20 foot back from the pavement so plenty of space for a drive and 'hardstanding' for 2 cars.

 

[Dadam]

Yep for every 'Dropped Kerb' that's a parking space lost on the road.
Similar to Maz's house, the estate was built in 1950-51 but apparently now they are desirable as the house is set 20 foot back from the pavement so plenty of space for a drive and 'hardstanding' for 2 cars.

Eh? A hardstanding for 2 cars from a single dropped kerb is 2 parking spaces for the loss of 1 on street. What are you actually suggesting as an alternative?

 

[Drago]

What are you actually suggesting as an alternative?

That people dont buy a cow if they dont have a field?

 

[stephec]

New York had the answer a hundred years ago, every street of terraced houses should have one of these.

 

[Dadam]

That people dont buy a cow if they dont have a field?

But they do have a "field", and simply have made an entrance to that "field". Poster seemed to be complaining about people who have used their own land to make space to park their vehicles off the road and not on the pavement.

 

[Drago]

But they do have a "field", and simply have made an entrance to that "field". Poster seemed to be complaining about people who have used their own land to make space to park their vehicles off the road and not on the pavement.

I was referreing to those neighbours that dont have dropped kerb complaining about the loss of 10 feet of kerb to park alongside when someone has a drop kerb fitted.

To expect to use a public highway for motor vehicle storage is an incredible concept.

 

[Dadam]

I was referreing to those neighbours that dont have dropped kerb complaining about the loss of 10 feet of kerb to park alongside when someone has a drop kerb fitted.

To expect to use a public highway for motor vehicle storage is an incredible concept.

I agree, but the post I replied to seemed to be bemoaning the loss of on-street parking because of people having drop kerbs and parking on their own land.

 

[Drago]

To which I replied, "That people dont buy a cow if they dont have a field?", with respect to the complainers.

Am I missing something profound here?

 

[raleighnut]

Eh? A hardstanding for 2 cars from a single dropped kerb is 2 parking spaces for the loss of 1 on street. What are you actually suggesting as an alternative?

Very often the 'hardstanding' is not used for cars, what I object to is the rainwater runoff that the concrete/slabs cause as opposed to the Lawn and flowerbeds removed*. As for what should they do well we cycle or use public transport, I don't drive (by choice) and before you say "Too expensive" no I have spent @ £12,000 on bikes I own and when my Father died Mum wanted me to have his car a 2 and a bit year old Rover 600 i (basically a Honda) but I refused it. It's not like I can't drive, when my ex fell and injured her leg in the Lake district I drove home to Leicester (with 'L' plates and after a call to the insurers........hated it)

* It's not the original owners but rather the people who have bought the houses after they 'popped their clogs' who have ripped out the nice front gardens and turned it into a midden. When I moved up here 30 years ago this was a nice street now it looks 5hit.

 

[Mike_P]

Any new hardstanding used on a propery frontage had to be permeable to preclude run off issues.
Part of the problem is that cars have got bigger due to impact protection meaning even small cars take up more space. A modern Ford Fiesta is equivalent in size to the 1960d/1970s family car, Ford Cortina.

 

[Dadam]

Am I missing something profound here?

Probably not. Now I've had some sleep I think I misinterpreted your point.

Very often the 'hardstanding' is not used for cars, what I object to is the rainwater runoff that the concrete/slabs cause as opposed to the Lawn and flowerbeds removed*.

Well you didn't mention the rainwater runoff, you appeared to be objecting to the use of the hardstanding for cars losing on street parking.

Ours is an ex council house and we've had a dropped kerb, hardstanding, drive and garage built. We park 2 cars entirely off the street. It's block paved therefore permeable. We still have half of the front garden remaining and the majority of the back.

 

[raleighnut]

Well you didn't mention the rainwater runoff, you appeared to be objecting to the use of the hardstanding for cars losing on street parking.

Ours is an ex council house and we've had a dropped kerb, hardstanding, drive and garage built. We park 2 cars entirely off the street. It's block paved therefore permeable. We still have half of the front garden remaining and the majority of the back.

It's just the dropped Kerb I object to, mainly because vehicle drivers use them as an access point to drive onto the pavement in order to park halfway on to that blocking it. Often outside our house as we are one of the few without a dropped Kerb.

 

[DCLane]

Reported another driver who drove onto the white zig-zags this afternoon, having pulled out in front of me without indicating forcing me to brake hard, only to park on the zig-zags 30 seconds later. They then jumped out with a parcel, so I'm guessing an Amazon driver or similar.

 

[cyberknight]

The trouble is times have changed since 1946.Where i live two housing estates were built 1946-7-8-9.Cars were like hen's teeth.Since the 50's a shopping centre,private estates library doctors surgery schools ,families now have two to four cars,the roads have not been made wider.Driveways were not built on the council estates,,but gawd help them getting scratched,plus anti social behaviour so more and more take them off the road,and foot the rest of you.

Where we live currently its a nightmare getting on and off the drive as people park their cars right up to the edge of the dropped kerb both sides as we are one of the few who have a driveway .It has got worse over the last 6 months as the new neighbour next to us and the new one across the road have multiple cars not to mention one family who has 3 all of which are nose to tail parked halfway on the kerb so traffic can get past.
Its one thing i will not miss when we move !

 

[Drago]

The parking situation, both for my own vehicles and in the street in general, is something I always scrutinise closely when choosing a place to live. Sadly few others seem to bother with such due diligence.