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A proper national anthem

Discussion in 'CycleChat Cafe' started by Cathryn, 22 Sep 2007.

  1. Cathryn

    Cathryn California Correspondant

    Watching the rugby today, it occurred to me (again) that our current national anthem isn't exactly great. Personally I rather like the Queen and think she does an excellent job, but shouldn't national anthems be about your nation, which doesn't change, as opposed to the monarch who does?

    As such, I would vote for either Land of Hope and Glory or Rule Britannia becoming our national anthem - probably the former!! Makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up.
     
  2. Noodley

    Noodley Guest

     
  3. Big Bren

    Big Bren New Member

    Location:
    Yorkshire
    Since I believe the royal family to be a pointless bunch of inbred Germans, I couldn't really give a stuff. If the national anthem is to change though, let the good old British public decide; we'd probably end up with 'Angels' by Robbie Williams or something equally chavtastic.

    Bren
     
  4. OP
    OP
    Cathryn

    Cathryn California Correspondant

    Any brighter suggestions then, oh cynical one??
     
  5. Maggot

    Maggot Star of BBC 5Lives Ballot Box Brigade

    Location:
    Cheddar
    "I vow to Thee my Country" I love it.
     
  6. Tim Bennet.

    Tim Bennet. Entirely Average Member

    Location:
    S of Kendal
    It's not only we don't have a decent British National Anthem, the rugby also shows that we don't have an English Anthem at all. However, I think Flanders and Swan were along the right lines:

    The English
    (Flanders & Swan)

    The rottenest bits of these islands of ours
    We've left in the hands of three unfriendly powers
    Examine the Irishman, Welshman or Scot
    You'll find he's a stinker as likely as not

    The English the English the English are best
    I wouldn't give tuppence for all of the rest

    The Scotsman is mean as we're all well aware
    He's boney and blotchy and covered with hair
    He eats salty porridge, he works all the day
    And hasn't got bishops to show him the way

    The English the English the English are best
    I wouldn't give tuppence for all of the rest

    The Irishman now our contempt is beneath
    He sleeps in his boots and he lies through his teeth
    He blows up policemen or so I have heard
    And blames it on Cromwell and William the Third

    The English are moral the English are good
    And clever and modest and misunderstood

    The Welshman's dishonest, he cheats when he can
    He's little and dark more like monkey than man
    He works underground with a lamp on his hat
    And sings far too loud, far too often and flat

    The English the English the English are best
    I wouldn't give tuppence for all of the rest

    And crossing the channel one cannot say much
    For the French or the Spanish, the Danish or Dutch
    The Germans are German, the Russians are red
    And the Greeks and Italians eat garlic in bed

    The English are noble, the English are nice
    And worth any other at double the price

    And all the world over each nation's the same
    They've simply no notion of playing the game
    They argue with umpires, they cheer when they've won
    And they practice before hand which spoils all the fun

    The English the English the English are best
    I wouldn't give tuppence for all of the rest

    It's not that they're wicked or naturally bad
    It's just knowing they're foreign that makes them so mad
    The English are all that a nation should be
    And the pride of the English are Donald (Michael) and me

    The English the English the English are best
    I wouldn't give tuppence for all of the rest
     
  7. gavintc

    gavintc Guru

    Location:
    Southsea
    Perhaps I am a traditionalist, but I still quite like our anthem. Anthems are not expected to be No1 best selllers, but to live through time. Personally, I hate both Land of Hope and Rule Britannia; pompous pious crap.
     
  8. Maggot

    Maggot Star of BBC 5Lives Ballot Box Brigade

    Location:
    Cheddar
    The red in the flag is the blood that was spilt
    In the way that your forefathers tell
    And never a country been so great
    The stories Britannia coud tell

    I never want to live my life
    Away from the golden shores
    There's never a country in the world
    With the scent of an English rose

    England, oh England, a country so great
    The land of so fair and so true
    There'll never be any colours like
    The red, the white and the blue

    Whenever you go to the far off shores
    Ther's something that goes with you
    The pride and the joy and the love that comes
    From your mother of red, white and blue

    You cold never be born under a flag that's like
    The one of a Union Jack
    St.George's spirit has never died
    It all keeps coming back

    England, oh England... (5x)
     
  9. Maggot

    Maggot Star of BBC 5Lives Ballot Box Brigade

    Location:
    Cheddar
    God save our gracious Queen,
    Long live our noble Queen,
    God save the Queen!
    Send her victorious,
    Happy and glorious,
    Long to reign over us;
    God save the Queen!

    2. O Lord our God arise,
    Scatter her enemies
    And make them fall;
    Confound their politics,
    Frustrate their knavish tricks,
    On Thee our hopes we fix,
    God save us all!

    3. Thy choicest gifts in store
    On her be pleased to pour;
    Long may she reign;
    May she defend our laws,
    And ever give us cause
    To sing with heart and voice,
    God save the Queen!

    4. Not in this land alone,
    But be God's mercies known,
    From shore to shore!
    Lord make the nations see,
    That men should brothers be,
    And form one family,
    The wide world over.

    5. From every latent foe,
    From the assassins blow,
    God save the Queen!
    O'er her thine arm extend,
    For Britain's sake defend,
    Our mother, prince, and friend,
    God save the Queen!

    6. Lord grant that Marshal Wade
    May by thy mighty aid
    Victory bring.
    May he sedition hush,
    And like a torrent rush,
    Rebellious Scots to crush.
    God save the Queen!


    It does rather go on a bit doesn't it? And how come we never get to verse 6 when we sing it??!!!????
     
  10. scm

    scm New Member

    Location:
    Chandler's Ford
    I think Prince Charles may dispute your assertion about the monarch changing! :biggrin:
     
  11. johnr

    johnr Über Member

    Billy Connolly made a very convincing case for the Archers theme tune... a very jaunty, non-aggressive air.
     
  12. johnr

    johnr Über Member

    ps A Norweigian friend once translated theirs. It was lovely. All about what a nice place Nprway is... nothing at all about ramming anything down any- every-one else's throats.
     
  13. Elmer Fudd

    Elmer Fudd Miserable Old Bar Steward

    William Blake - Jeruselem

    And did those feet in ancient time
    Walk upon England's mountains green?
    And was the holy Lamb of God
    On England's pleasant pastures seen?

    And did the Countenance Divine
    Shine forth upon our clouded hills?
    And was Jerusalem builded here
    Among these dark Satanic mills?

    Bring me my bow of burning gold!
    Bring me my arrows of desire!
    Bring me my spear! O clouds unfold!
    Bring me my chariot of fire!

    I will not cease from mental fight,
    Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand
    Till we have built Jerusalem
    In England's green and pleasant land.
     
  14. tomb1960

    tomb1960 New Member

    Location:
    Birmingham
    I agree Cathryn God Save the Queen is awful, I wonder if the answer is to keep the National Anthem/Dirge and have a Rugby Anthem in addition like the Irish do. I think Eimer Fudd's suggestion of Jerusalem is a good one, it's easy to sing after all!
     
  15. zimzum42

    zimzum42 Legendary Member

    Couldn't they just keep the present anthem, but add a garage beat underneath it, jazz it up a bit?