A sad state of affairs

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Psycolist

NINJA BYKALIST
Location
North Essex
Saturday evening, last weekend, a friend of my sons parks his bike outside work, chained to a lamp post, deliberately in view of a CCTV camera. Finishes his shift at 10, probably about 10-15 by the time he has got his coat and left work, just to find his bike gone with the cut lock chain laying on the floor. He carefully as possible put the lock into a carrier, thinking he is preserving any evidence, and takes a 5 minute walk to the Police Station to report the theft. On arrival, finds they are closed, with just a telephone to contact the police operator in Chelmsford some 35 miles away. As he goes to pick up the phone he sees a police car leaving the garage entrance at the side of the station. He runs towards the car waving at them to stop, which they do. He approaches the front passenger, who winds down his window the bare minimum of about 10mm, and the officer shouts through the crack for my sons friend to 'STAND BACK FROM THE CAR'. So, from a distance of about 5 feet, the lad has to tell the officer about his stolen bike, at which the bobby seems to relax a little and beckons the lad forward, but does not open the window any further. The lad tries explain that his bike has been stolen and that the theft would be on CCTV. The bobby tells him that the CCTV is irrelevant because the system is run by the council and not the police and there are all sorts of forms to fill in to get the footage released. The lad explains that he kept the cut lock as evidence for any DNA or cut pattern evidence to be assessed by the Scenes of Crime officers, only to be laughed at and told that he's got more chance of winning the lottery than getting Scenes of Crime to look at his 'evidence'. The bobby tells him to go back to the phone, get a crime number and claim off his insurance, and that its not a crime the police would waste their time investigating. The Police Officer then winds closed the 10mm gap and signals to the driver to move off. The lad does as advised, gets his crime number, and then rings dad to come and get him. Dad says that he is furious with the police, but that its pointless making a fuss because the local police will just mark their cards as trouble makers and that it is not worth claiming from the insurance as their excess is £300 and the bike didn't cost that much new. So it would appear that this town has been left totally open to anyone wishing to feather their nests by stealing bikes, that the owners of those bikes are going to be the losers, and that there is bugger all any one is prepared to do about it. Unfortunately, the family had not kept any records of frame numbers or any other such details, they don't even have a picture of the bike, but it seems it wouldn't have made any difference if they had. The Essex Police were simply not interested. This is on the back of a glut of similar thefts of bikes that have come to light, from street parking areas, that have taken place since the kids went back to school after the Christmas break. I now know of 5 people who have lost bikes in the last 10 days or so. I wonder what the thieves get for each bike, £10 - £15 to some middle man who then takes them to an auction or boot market a few towns away. I don't know what the answer is, but there should be some accountability for some action to be taken in these, what I accept to be minor crimes. I believe the same Police Authority recently told shopkeepers that due to lack of street officers, if they catch shop lifters, they are to either take them to the police station themselves, or get some ID from the thief and give those details to the police at a later time. I am not sure where this is going to end , but its certainly down a slippery slope, we just cant see what is at the bottom of that slope yet.
 

DCLane

Found in the Yorkshire hills ...
We've got the same issue in West Yorkshire - and again are finding that there's nothing done apart from giving a crime number.

On two occasions the thieves have been caught in the act. The bike owner's been told to take a photo and let them go as no-one's available to deal with it.
 

Drago

Legendary Member
Does he think they'll spend £4000 sending it to a lab for analysis, for that's what it costs now the government closed down the Forensic Science Service.
 

greekonabike

President of the 'Democratic Republic' of GOAB
Location
Kent
I'd be absolutely devastated if my bike was stolen. However if it was going to cost a disproportionate amount of money to catch the crim then I would understand why they wouldn't care much about it. After all it's 'only a £300 bike'.

But my bike is also my only form of transport. I use it to get to work, to socialise, to transport shopping and without it I'd have to walk everywhere.

GOAB
 

Pat "5mph"

A kilogrammicaly challenged woman
Moderator
Location
Glasgow
My recent experience with Police Scotland is completely different.
It was only a (my :sad: bike), stolen from the official work bike park (no cctv) along with a few others.
The policeman in charge of the case has been in contact via email, has explained to me that he is investigating.
He also told me that his team has to attend 999 calls, so whatever progress they can make will take time.
He told me that, should I see my bike again with or without rider I should call the police and they will try to come.
In this current climate of cut backs I don't think I could ask for more in relation to a bike theft.
I even got a call from crime victim support, bless.
So, in this matter, Police Scotland rocks :becool:
 

Lozz360

Veteran
Location
Oxfordshire
Do we really need a police force? If our house is on fire the local fire brigade turn up and fight the fire. If we have an accident the ambulance service takes us to hospital. If we are a victim of crime the police give us a crime number so we can claim off our insurance. Anti-terrorist work can be dealt with by the military, so do we really need police in modern day Britain?
 

AndyRM

XOXO
Location
North Shields
Do we really need a police force? If our house is on fire the local fire brigade turn up and fight the fire. If we have an accident the ambulance service takes us to hospital. If we are a victim of crime the police give us a crime number so we can claim off our insurance. Anti-terrorist work can be dealt with by the military, so do we really need police in modern day Britain?

Er. Yes. We do.
 

Lozz360

Veteran
Location
Oxfordshire
Does he think they'll spend £4000 sending it to a lab for analysis, for that's what it costs now the government closed down the Forensic Science Service.
If they did just did a finger print search on the national data base, surely that wouldn't cost £4000?
 

uclown2002

Guru
Location
Harrogate
Do we really need a police force? If our house is on fire the local fire brigade turn up and fight the fire. If we have an accident the ambulance service takes us to hospital. If we are a victim of crime the police give us a crime number so we can claim off our insurance. Anti-terrorist work can be dealt with by the military, so do we really need police in modern day Britain?
Top level trolling :okay:
 

Hill Wimp

Fair weathered,fair minded but easily persuaded.
Do we really need a police force? If our house is on fire the local fire brigade turn up and fight the fire. If we have an accident the ambulance service takes us to hospital. If we are a victim of crime the police give us a crime number so we can claim off our insurance. Anti-terrorist work can be dealt with by the military, so do we really need police in modern day Britain?
The Military don't investigate they are there to protect us not work out how something was done.

So who investigates the arson that the Fire Brigade deal with or the assault or murder the paramedics get called too ?
 
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