AirZound equivalent for a Bike path?

[glasgowcyclist]

I fully understand that pedestrians have priority, all I was asking for is if there is anything quieter than an AirZound.

Have you considered using a peashooter?


GC

 

[Deleted member 1258]

LOL, Reminds me of "Take Your Pick" with Michael Miles and Alec Dane ready with his gong lol

I remember that.

 

[gambatte]

Tooting a car horn SHOULD only be done to alert others to your presence an airzound used from a distance is IMO perfectly acceptable. If I see soemone walking a dog, offlead, 100yds infront and in the same direction. I'll give a quick 'bip' on the zound. It gives them plenty of time to bring fido under control and I've never had a problem.
Better to give peds notice from far away. Usually the thing is 'ped' is walking just off centre, you ride up, slowly, and say "'scuse me, passing by - on your left/right" Whilst you're saying this ped has heard there's someone behind them and moved across onto the side you're about to pass by on!

 

[Andy_R]

Tooting a car horn SHOULD only be done to alert others to your presence an airzound used from a distance is IMO perfectly acceptable. If I see soemone walking a dog, offlead, 100yds infront and in the same direction. I'll give a quick 'bip' on the zound. It gives them plenty of time to bring fido under control and I've never had a problem.
Better to give peds notice from far away. Usually the thing is 'ped' is walking just off centre, you ride up, slowly, and say "'scuse me, passing by - on your left/right" Whilst you're saying this ped has heard there's someone behind them and moved across onto the side you're about to pass by on!

Problem with that is that you are demanding that they put their dog on the lead/under control. You are the second class ciitzen here, so can't make any demands. They are allowed on the path without restriction, you are there by local bylaw only.

 

[Dan B]

Frustrating though it may seem, you just have to allow peds to do their thing. Tooting an airzound at them is equivalent to a car driver blasting his horn at a cyclist because he's holding him up on the road.

Yes, this. "When I drive along roads I often encounter cyclists in the middle of the lane who don't move over when I come up behind them because they're wearing headphones and can't hear me. I understand that they have priority but regardless I cannot countenance the possibility of having to wait before I can get past them as is my right. How can I make them move out of the way?"

 

[summerdays]

Yes, this. "When I drive along roads I often encounter cyclists in the middle of the lane who don't move over when I come up behind them because they're wearing headphones and can't hear me. I understand that they have priority but regardless I cannot countenance the possibility of having to wait before I can get past them as is my right. How can I make them move out of the way?"

As cyclist we don't expect the car driver to notify us that they are there and want to get past and instead I expect them to wait for a safe place to pass.

Some pedestrians do expect you to tell them you are there. I don't use my bell much, and I have a lovely tinkling sounding brass one, but I've been told off for not using it, even by a cyclist on the cycle path who shouted at me for not ringing it before passing him. I've also been told off for cycling quietly behind someone when waiting for a safe place to pass. You can't win in this respect there will always be someone who considers what you are doing is wrong. Rather than using my bell which as you say almost makes it seem like a demand to get out of my way, I normally just say Good Morning, it alerts them to my presence without saying shift. The rest is up to them. If they don't move then I'm happy to listen to their conversation for a bit.

 

[ufkacbln]

Frustrating though it may seem, you just have to allow peds to do their thing. Tooting an airzound at them is equivalent to a car driver blasting his horn at a cyclist because he's holding him up on the road.

GC

Another misconception....

It is completely the opposite, a "blip" serves the absolutely correct and appropriate function of notifying someone of your presence.

I have bells that are louder than the AirZound on low use

 

[glasgowcyclist]

Another misconception....

It is completely the opposite, a "blip" serves the absolutely correct and appropriate function of notifying someone of your presence.

The misconception is yours. The specific wording in the HC is Use only while your vehicle is moving and you need to warn other road users of your presence.


GC

 

[sidevalve]

Frustrating though it may seem, you just have to allow peds to do their thing. Tooting an airzound at them is equivalent to a car driver blasting his horn at a cyclist because he's holding him up on the road.

GC

+1 for that Unless you are prepared for car drivers to blow a horn at you don't do it to anyone else simply because you can't be bothered waiting until there is room to pass [seem to have heard that before somewhere too].
BUT as a possible way around your problem try a whistle - it's cheap and doesn't sound too much like "get out of the way you utter ba----d"!!

 

[sight-pin]

The Delta Airzound 2, has a volume control evidently, ..........
http://www.evanscycles.com/products...Display&utm_medium=Criteo&utm_campaign=Criteo

 

[ufkacbln]

The misconception is yours. The specific wording in the HC is Use only while your vehicle is moving and you need to warn other road users of your presence.


GC

So it is

I ride a recumbent trike which is quite wide and low

If I am coming up behind a pedestrian and wish to pass, they haven't seen me, I consider it courteous and polite to inform them of my presence so they are not surprised or concerned

I would not dream of passing someone who was not aware I was there - So yes I do "need" to warn them

As I stated, appropriate and proportional

 

[Kookas]

There is a difference, though, between cyclists taking the middle of a lane on the road or whatever and pedestrians walking in the middle. 90% of the time, the pedestrians aren't specifically avoiding the side of the path. It's just that they just aren't avoiding the middle of it either. In these times, there's no real specific justification for them not giving you room to pass and they probably don't mean to block you. It simply doesn't occur to them that cyclists will be needing to pass them.

 

[ufkacbln]

There is a difference, though, between cyclists taking the middle of a lane on the road or whatever and pedestrians walking in the middle. 90% of the time, the pedestrians aren't specifically avoiding the side of the path. It's just that they just aren't avoiding the middle of it either. In these times, there's no real specific justification for them not giving you room to pass and they probably don't mean to block you. It simply doesn't occur to them that cyclists will be needing to pass them.

As I have stated before it is entirely down to the shoulder effect

Shoulders repel so if you have a person walking on a cycle path either shoulder repels from the edge forcing them to walk down the centre

More than one person and their shoulders also repel so you end up in a situation where they are forced to walk symmetrically across the path

The same also applies to any corridor

 

[gambatte]

Problem with that is that you are demanding that they put their dog on the lead/under control. You are the second class ciitzen here, so can't make any demands. They are allowed on the path without restriction, you are there by local bylaw only.

Without restriction??
Direct Cut 'n' paste from gov website
Controlling your dog in public
1. Overview
It’s against the law to let a dog be dangerously out of control anywhere, eg:

• in a public place

Out of control
Your dog is considered dangerously out of control if it:

• injures someone
• makes someone worried that it might injure them

So yes, I'm informing them that I'm there and giving them time to get their dog under control. If I'm out running with my dog he's under control. Hardly ever on lead, but then he's trained to be under 'close control' as well as 'distance control'. A dog doesn't have to be foaming at the mouth or attacking to make me think it's going to do something that may cause injury.

 

[mjr]

Highway code, rule 1, pedestrians should leave the road side of the path clear.

But they're not required to know that, so be polite, ring the Bell and ask to pass if needed.