Aldi 3W Cree Head Torch 24/08

[srw]

And SMALL is the appropriate word!

You need far less light to see to read a map or a routesheet or to repair a puncture than you do to illuminate a road.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

Small is beautiful

Ring Cyba Lite Sprint. Around a tenner.

I use a cut down piece of the elastic strap, not shown, to lash the lamp to the front of my helmet. The spring clip is redundant in my application.

 

[brand]

Does the light fixed to your bike point in the direction your turning?

Can you read route directions on your map board with a fixed light? With a head torch you can.

You can make your presence known to a car driver by just looking at a them, hopefully, which may be pulling out of a side street your passing and the driver may not have seen you.

Try fixing a puncture with a fixed light, far easier with a headlight.

Yes they do look in the direction your turning! Just like car head light?
And small head torches are all that's needed for everything else you said. And every driver that pulls out sees you. He just hasn't noticed you. Your not a threat he is just looking through or past you. And as you can't see if he has noticed you in the dark, you will have to look/shine your light at every car driver to be sure they have noticed you......not necessarily a bad idea but they do get a hump on!

 

[brand]

For the same money (at the time of posting) you could have this and this from On One.

Excellent very well spotted. Exactly what i was going to buy from China. Have just converted an old bike light from 14 lumens to a 110 - 120 lumens with a nicelite bulb. More like a fog light now. But want a brighter flashing light.

http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/LIPHBPDRL/phaart-bleep-dual-05-watt-led-rear-light

 

[zacklaws]

Yes they do look in the direction your turning! Just like car head light? And every driver that pulls out sees you. He just hasn't noticed you.

So your telling me that FIXED lights on your bike swivel into the direction that your turning illuminating the ground that you will be riding over automatically, just like a car???????????? What a load of rubbish!!!!!!! And in all my life, working amongst vehicles of many makes....I have only ever came across one car, years ago, which had headlights which would pivot into the turn that the vehicle was making.

But I have crashed before, when the dark ground that I was turning into in front of me was not illuminated early enough by my fixed lights which would only point forward to where I am not going to be travelling and many a time whilst night driving cross country in a vehicle have I had unseen hazards, ie trees, signs etc flash by the bonnet as I turn into the unluminated area.

"And every driver that pulls out sees you. He just hasn't noticed you."

Have they really seen you? How do you know? And did I not mention shining your headlight at them? So why restate it as if it was your idea to try and make drivers notice you

Headlights are a lifesafer.

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

And in all my life, working amongst vehicles of many makes....I have only ever came across one car, years ago, which had headlights which would pivot into the turn that the vehicle was making.

Citroën?

 

[ufkacbln]

...if you want to dazzle drivers coming towards you. Lights belong on the bike, not on the head, unless they're pretty dim.

...... or repairing a puncture on a dark wet night?

 

[Cubist]

Citroën?

Landrover, VW, BMW, Renault to name a few. Google "adapative headlights" or "cornering headlights".

 

[brand]

So your telling me that FIXED lights on your bike swivel into the direction that your turning illuminating the ground that you will be riding over automatically, just like a car???????????? What a load of rubbish!!!!!!! And in all my life, working amongst vehicles of many makes....I have only ever came across one car, years ago, which had headlights which would pivot into the turn that the vehicle was making.

But I have crashed before, when the dark ground that I was turning into in front of me was not illuminated early enough by my fixed lights which would only point forward to where I am not going to be travelling and many a time whilst night driving cross country in a vehicle have I had unseen hazards, ie trees, signs etc flash by the bonnet as I turn into the unluminated area.

"And every driver that pulls out sees you. He just hasn't noticed you."

Have they really seen you? How do you know? And did I not mention shining your headlight at them? So why restate it as if it was your idea to try and make drivers notice you

Headlights are a lifesafer.

As it happens my light swivels or at least I can turn them. How is it possible for a car driver not to see you? If they look right they will see you how can they not? Again I want to see the road in front of me not something round the corner which is probably hidden by the curb anyway. I think they are not safe for other road users on that basis I won't use them.

 

[zacklaws]

As it happens my light swivels or at least I can turn them. How is it possible for a car driver not to see you? If they look right they will see you how can they not? Again I want to see the road in front of me not something round the corner which is probably hidden by the curb anyway. I don't think they are not safe for other road users on that basis I won't use them.

To swivel your fixed light by hand....whilst turning.......in the dark.....on our potholed roads.....thats taking a risk.

"How is it possible for a car driver not to see you?"

So you have never had a car pull out in front of you and nearly hit you, in daytime or night......you must be charmed, because it happens......and whats the first thing they say "Sorry Mate, I never saw you"

And if something is hidden by the kerb.....then your too close to the kerb to start with or there high kerbs, more nonsence!!!!!!!!!

And their not safe for other road users? are not other road users lights brighter than headlights, ie car headlights, or have you had them removed from your own car as their unsafe to other drivers?

And if you are using a headlight, then the trend is to have them pointing where your looking, and whilst riding, I'm looking at the road ahead, or my map board, or looking for hazards etc where my eyes are looking, which is usually downwards, So if the beam is downwards........how can it be unsafe to other general road users?

"The Royal Society for the Preventions of Accidents in the UK has stated that although 80% of road accidents occur during daylight (with the majority of these occuring between 8am-9am and 3pm-6pm), accidents which occur at night are more likely to be fatal. The volume of accidents is higher in Spring and Summer compared with Autumn and Winter, however the casulty rate in terms of miles traveled is higher in the darker winter months. Staying bright and being seen on your bike should be every cyclist's top priority in the dark!"

So if you want to bow down to upsetting or thinking its unsafe by using headlights etc to car drivers in preference to staying safe.......then be prepared to become one of those fatal accidents......the only good thing is, after you have been flattened.....their won't be much glass etc from your lights to cause punctures to other cyclists!!!!!!!

 

[zacklaws]

Phaart Bleep Dual 0.5 Watt LED Rear Light

I bought 3 of these a while back for spares when Planet X was selling them for a ridiculously cheap price, maybe a £1. Just used one this weekend for the first time when my main light packed in, 12 hours riding through the night (switched to permanent, not flashing mode) and the batteries was still good as new when morning came. Only thing I did not like was the seal around the edge does not seem watertight, plenty of gap and not a tight fit, so I ran a strip of insulation tape around it.

 

[brand]

The car driver who pulled out in front of you saw you. They always see you they just don't notice you. There is a difference.
I don't own a car and my bike light is 800 Lumens more than adequate and as all cars dip there lights to me they appear to be agreeing.

the only good thing is, after you have been flattened.....their won't be much glass etc from your lights to cause punctures to other cyclists!!!!!!!

A nasty mouth is a product of a nasty mind.

 

[brand]

By the way you are supposed to be able to stop within the distance you can see. If you need to see round corners your going to fast.

 

[ufkacbln]

To swivel your fixed light by hand....whilst turning.......in the dark.....on our potholed roads.....thats taking a risk.

"How is it possible for a car driver not to see you?"

So you have never had a car pull out in front of you and nearly hit you, in daytime or night......you must be charmed, because it happens......and whats the first thing they say "Sorry Mate, I never saw you"

And if something is hidden by the kerb.....then your too close to the kerb to start with or there high kerbs, more nonsence!!!!!!!!!

And their not safe for other road users? are not other road users lights brighter than headlights, ie car headlights, or have you had them removed from your own car as their unsafe to other drivers?

And if you are using a headlight, then the trend is to have them pointing where your looking, and whilst riding, I'm looking at the road ahead, or my map board, or looking for hazards etc where my eyes are looking, which is usually downwards, So if the beam is downwards........how can it be unsafe to other general road users?

"The Royal Society for the Preventions of Accidents in the UK has stated that although 80% of road accidents occur during daylight (with the majority of these occuring between 8am-9am and 3pm-6pm), accidents which occur at night are more likely to be fatal. The volume of accidents is higher in Spring and Summer compared with Autumn and Winter, however the casulty rate in terms of miles traveled is higher in the darker winter months. Staying bright and being seen on your bike should be every cyclist's top priority in the dark!"

So if you want to bow down to upsetting or thinking its unsafe by using headlights etc to car drivers in preference to staying safe.......then be prepared to become one of those fatal accidents......the only good thing is, after you have been flattened.....their won't be much glass etc from your lights to cause punctures to other cyclists!!!!!!!

Actually the only antidote to the car pulling out in front of you when they cannot see 1600 lumens of light is an AirZound....

"Sorry Mate, I never saw you"

Actually is "Sorry Mate, I didn't see you you" the infamous SMIDSY and is not because of lack of lighting or HiViz, simply that thety did on see because they did not look, failed to register or did not respond appropriately

The fact is that drivers show in research that they spend less time looking at cycles and motorcycles than cars, the thought being that they had either failed to see the vulnerable vehicle or dismissed it as being irrelevant

Other research shows that 35% of the accidents involved the vehicle driver failing to yield, versus only 4% of the motorcycle drivers. Passenger vehicles failing to yield were the highest percentage of any driver-related factor in all the accidents.


So you may try the inappropriate emotive tripe to promote your opinion, but it simply does not stand up to scrutiny

Instead of misquoting RoSPA to suit your ends, try reading THIS

 

[zacklaws]

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Instead of misquoting RoSPA to suit your ends, try reading THIS

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Have I misquoted RoSPA?????????? This is dated August 2014

http://www.rospa.com/roadsafety/adviceandinformation/cycling/facts-figures.aspx