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Am I an RLJer, was I ‘bad’?

Discussion in 'Commuting' started by gambatte, 17 Jan 2008.

  1. gambatte

    gambatte Middle of the pack...

    Location:
    S Yorks
    Approaching a junction today, a light controlled crossroad. There’s lighting at the entrance and opposite exit sides of the junction. As I approached I saw the lights go from green to amber, but figured I knew the timing of these lights.

    As I got to the junction entrance the lights were on amber and I carried on thro. However, literally a split second later the lighting at the other side went to red….
     
  2. John the Monkey

    John the Monkey Frivolous Cyclist

    Location:
    Crewe
    Strictly speaking, you're not an RLJ'er because you crossed the stop line when the light was on amber, I'd guess.

    My personal experiences of doing this (going through amber lights) have not been pleasant though, and as such it's not something I like doing (I've been through on amber once or twice, but only where I couldn't have stopped safely because of the conditions/traffic).

    Generally I start to slow when I see an amber light, in preparation for stopping safely on red.
     
  3. Depends how fast im going and circumstances.Once stopped I dont just go through though.Well not unless they change to green.
     
  4. wafflycat

    wafflycat New Member

    Location:
    middle of Norfolk
    Effectively, yes you are, as amber means 'stop' May I give you the Highway Code..

    "AMBER means ‘Stop’ at the stop line. You may go on only if the AMBER appears after you have crossed the stop line or are so close to it that to pull up might cause an accident"

    It doesn't mean 'proceed if you think you know the timings of the lights' Honest.
     
  5. Arch

    Arch Married to Night Train

    Location:
    York, UK
    Strictly speaking, you're supposed to stop on amber, unless to do so would cause an accident (IE another vehicle behind rammin into you because you jammed the brakes on as it went amber as you were nearly at the line)

    <Damn the new website, how do you link to a pdf for proof?>

    Pause for ironic laughter at the thought of many people, cyclists or motorists stopping on amber...
     
  6. wafflycat

    wafflycat New Member

    Location:
    middle of Norfolk
  7. Arch

    Arch Married to Night Train

    Location:
    York, UK
    Cheers. You used to be able to link direct to the right page, not a pdf... Anyway...
     
  8. It doesn't mean 'proceed if you think you know the timings of the lights' Honest.

    I'll make you right.;)
     
  9. Maz

    Maz Guru

    You're an 'amber gambler', gambatte. You got away with it!

    OT - do you know anyone who has a spare ticket for Blades v Wendy's this w/e at H'boro? Preferably at the away end, but hey, beggars cant be choosers.
     
  10. wafflycat

    wafflycat New Member

    Location:
    middle of Norfolk
    I know, they changed it when they updated the HC. It's less user friendly than it was.
     
  11. BentMikey

    BentMikey Rider of Seolferwulf

    Location:
    South London
    Even Terminator is a RLJer because he goes across the stop line. ;)

    No, don't bite mate, I'm back on the windups now.
     
  12. magnatom

    magnatom Guest

    I always thought amber meant pedal/drive faster.....;);)
     
  13. Tynan

    Tynan Veteran

    Location:
    e4
    I take amber if I'm going quick, maybe the odd early red

    if it's safe, thems London rules

    spec if something like a car or bus is doing it with me

    for me proper rlj is cold blood solid red jumping, that's what causes accidents, there's plenty of time beween the phases
     
  14. alecstilleyedye

    alecstilleyedye nothing in moderation Staff Member

    but what about filtering to the front to avoid getting left hooked, even when no asl means you end up waiting over the stop line (but before the actual junction)? guilty as charged, and here to tell you so as a consequence.
     
  15. Tynan

    Tynan Veteran

    Location:
    e4
    no problem with that here, at all, although some would stay start further back, I've been trying that lately, from primary usually and it's cool, although it's usually because I can't get to the front safely