An interesting defence

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gavintc

Guru
Location
Southsea
I was scanning the news on the BBC web site and this case caught my eye. It seemed unusual. Essentially, N-Dubz drummer was convicted of sexual assaulting 2 girls. His defence did amuse me:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-11479187

"He claimed that he had been touring all over Europe for years and would not have suddenly done something like this in Glasgow which is "hardly a haven for models"."


 

Coco

Well-Known Member
Location
Glasgow
And Naples is????? 




Oh. Wait a minute... :blush:
 

taxing

Well-Known Member
It's a classic defence, meant to further embarrass the victims while saving face. There's a variant of it that happens frequently in nightclubs, men will show you a bit of crude and unwanted attention, you reject them, so suddenly you're an ugly dog and who'd be looking at you anyway, when they can have any bird they want.
 

buggi

Bird Saviour
Location
Solihull
It's a classic defence, meant to further embarrass the victims while saving face. There's a variant of it that happens frequently in nightclubs, men will show you a bit of crude and unwanted attention, you reject them, so suddenly you're an ugly dog and who'd be looking at you anyway, when they can have any bird they want.


absolutely agree with this. anyone who knows anything about sexual assault will know it's nothing to do with looks or even if you fancy someone. However, for those that aren't "in the know" such as a jury, it's easy to go down the route of "as if i'd fancy someone that ugly" to cast doubt in their mind with the common misconception
 

Keith Oates

Janner
Location
Penarth, Wales
Seeing the photo of him in the BBC report, he's the last one to comment on the low quality of the Glasgow girls in the looks department!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Moodyman

Legendary Member
"honey to a swarm of bees"
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theclaud

Openly Marxist
Location
Swansea
It's a classic defence, meant to further embarrass the victims while saving face. There's a variant of it that happens frequently in nightclubs, men will show you a bit of crude and unwanted attention, you reject them, so suddenly you're an ugly dog and who'd be looking at you anyway, when they can have any bird they want.

Spot on. So, as regards the thread title - "interesting" in the sense of "entirely predictable". Good on N-Dubz for giving him the boot.
 

ttcycle

Cycling Excusiast
It's a disgusting thing to say- basically the tosser is not taking responsibility for his horrendous treatment of two women - it's the typical thing that people have used as defense ie they deserved it due to their clothing.

As for the quality of women in Glasgow, I couldn't comment on that! Lol!
 

Coco

Well-Known Member
Location
Glasgow
The earlier report sums up his attitude.
Speaking following the verdict at Glasgow Sheriff Court, Fagan said he had been "convicted with no facts" by "a white jury".

Fagan was convicted by Sheriff Joanna Johnston and not a jury. Sentence was deferred until next month.
 
Students. So may not have been weegies anyway.
Good to see the women were taken seriously, I'm sure this type of unwanted attention happens far too often. I'm sure some women would take a more proactive 'hands-off' approach which would result in the application of ice packs to his groin.
 

Mac66

Senior Member
Location
Newbury-ish
I don't recall where I read something about the female band member, saying that she has trouble trusting men on the basis of how the 2 male members of the band treat women
 
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