Errr ........ committing murder by bashing some one with a baseball bat requires mens rea (intention) and actus rea (the act). Have you heard of these legal concepts? To commit murder a perpetrator would have to have shown both. People do not get into their cars with the intention of killing people. One would hope.
Driving on the roads is a lawful activity until it is done negligently which then makes it unlawful. The standard of driving must fall in decreasing degrees of incompetence below that of the standard of a competent and prudent hypothetical driver thus giving careless, reckless or dangerous driving.
When you understand these legal concepts then feel free to continue the debate. Until such time discussion is pointless.
Crankarm,
It was not I who introduced the topic of death by baseball bat, nor did I raise the issue of prosecution for murder.
You'll see from the post immediately above mine that I was replying to what I thought an inappropriate comparison between a death in a collision and murder or manslaughter with a baseball bat.
You make just the point I did. I was replying (inter alia) to the below quote from Glow Worm:
It seems to me if you bash someone to death with a baseball bat, you will get done for murder or manslaughter, yet if you do the same, but happen to attach the baseball bat to your car, you'll get points on your licence and a £100 fine.
I've read again my post that led you to suggest ending the debate until I gain some rudimentary grasp of law. I have little, but I mailed my quote that so offended you to my brother, a solicitor qualified in 1986.
He had no problem with my saying: If you bash someone to death with a baseball bat, the likelihood is that you have murdered them (dependent on the circumstances).
Nor did he have a problem with my saying: If someone dies in a collision and there seems to be evidence of wrongdoing, a case will need to be prepared.
The splendour of his lifestyle suggests that he is not a bad lawyer. I know little of the law, but your response to my innocent post made him chuckle and say something not unlike "See you next Tuesday". This may be a legal in-joke whose meaning is lost on me, as I am not expecting a visit from my brother next Tuesday.
As to when I might feel free to continue with this debate, your own post seems to prove that relevance and knowledge are not prerequisite.
I'm afraid I'm going to ignore your advice to stop posting. I hope you keep posting too.