martint235
Dog on a bike
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- Welling
Another truck/cyclist accident in London
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This is so awful, every time I hear of one of these my blood runs cold.
Do we ever find out the cause of these? I only ever seem to hear of 'Cyclist killed by lorry' or 'Pedestrian killed by driver'. I'm not interested in blame as such but a cause such as someone breaking the law (red light jumping, mobile phone use) or either party being genuinely distracted or doing something rash for a second etc. is, I think important in understanding why people are dying and then going on to making some attempt at reducing these. If it's law breaking then more needs to be done to enforce existing legislation. Otherwise, it could be an infrastructure issue or a more education/training....
gaz
Cycle Camera TV
- Location
- South Croydon
RIP 
I'm guessing there's an element of this... I never go on the inside of a bus or truck that's near a left turn and I either get exasperated fellow cyclists huffing behind me or they just overtake and go right on in there...
HLaB
Marie Attoinette Fan
I cant even bear to read it 
FFS Boris was only on the tv on Sunday commenting about improving cycling conditions in London
FFS Boris was only on the tv on Sunday commenting about improving cycling conditions in London 
numbnuts
Legendary Member
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- Gone over the hill and far away
RIP Condolances to family and friends
it was only the other day I thought how many times I have written that this year
it was only the other day I thought how many times I have written that this year
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martint235
Dog on a bike
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- Welling
So if the mayor of London doesn't have some direct responsibility for safety on the Capital's roads, who do we pin responsibility on? I'm not saying that it's just his fault. Accidents can be caused by cyclists doing stupid things particularly around large vehicles (and again I'm not saying this is the case here) but as you work your way up the chain the first person who can do something about: lorries in London; education of cyclists in London; education of drivers in London; condition of roads and junctions in London; is the Mayor.
HLaB
Marie Attoinette Fan
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martint235
Dog on a bike
- Location
- Welling
Yes but perhaps education on both sides could have helped prevent it. A point I made in my post above. I never mentioned "dangerous roads" only that the Mayor has control over the condition of roads and junctions within London.
Or perhaps we should expect nothing to be done, in which case nothing will be done and the situation will get worse.
Brandane
Legendary Member
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- Costa Clyde
Good to see that we already know the result of the fatal accident inquiry, from a paragraph on the internet.
RIP the cyclist, but let's not apportion blame just yet. I seem to remember a similar thread not so long ago when a cyclist died as a result of a collision with a caravan. The driver was hung out to dry on here; then it turned out the poor cyclist had ridden into the back of the caravan whilst it was sitting stationary.
You *could* try googling... turns up this story about how the police are being safety conscious
http://road.cc/content/news/82330-e...er-threat-after-police-reportedly-insist-road
"The force’s move follows the death near Hull in late March of a cyclist taking part in a time trial who rode into the back of a stationary caravan."
there seems also to have been a lot of questions raised over why they chose that road during a bank holiday because it was a busy road...
( frankly looks like a campervan on some photos and it had a puncture according to some of the reports.)
[edit , too slow
and the better pics in beano's link show it certainly wasnt a campervan ..]
Brandane
Legendary Member
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- Costa Clyde
So questioning your point of view is now classed as trolling?
Here's the link.
Edit - Also too slow!
