Any ambulance or fire engine drivers on here?

[stephec]

Or does anyone know the answer to this question?

Not in a, 'bloke down the pub,' says so, but the definitive answer.

On my street cars are often parked both sides of the road in a bit of a knobby way that just leaves room for a transit van to squeeze through. If a fire engine had to get down the other end of the street to a house on fire, but was blocked by cars poorly parked, would they be legally entitled to barge through, and would it be tough tits to the car owner, you parked like a dick, suffer the consequences and pay for your own damage?

 

[Roadrider48]

I think they can just barge past in an emergency.
So I was told by a council parking official once.

 

[twentysix by twentyfive]

My mate down the pub said



























"Mine's a pint"

 

[jefmcg]

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2004/21/section/44

 

[SteCenturion]

Ex firefighter

I honestly don't know the legalities any more but I can say with confidence that if necessary a crew chief would ok it.

Shouldn't be an issue unless it is a very long Street as access can be gained front or rear of properties for rescue purposes however if the seat of a fire or the main affected room/s were front then it would add difficulty.

Each hose on a fire tender is 25m long & most hose lockers will carry at least 6 hoses *different trucks are laid out specifically to the role* so not every truck has the exact same kit.

While I have never barged a vehicle out of the way, I have driven against the flow (wrong side of road) on the A1 to get to an RTC (formerly RTA) & so within reason, anything goes.

Ask your local Fire Station for a Street visit & see if they can help.

 

[Drago]

Yes, if Life and Limb is genuinely at stake. Not just the risk of harm, it has to be serious harm or death, quite a high bar. They never do it though, because they don't have enough vehicles to have a unit off the road being mended.

My dibble ticket is still current and I can still drive the Search and Rescue Land Rover Ambo on blues

 

[Catweasel]

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2004/21/section/44

So only men can barge cars out of the way - good news for us men, a shame the chicks have to miss out on the fun though.

 

[SteCenturion]

Yes, if Life and Limb is genuinely at stake. Not just the risk of harm, it has to be serious harm or death, quite a high bar. They never do it though, because they don't have enough vehicles to have a unit off the road being mended.

My dibble ticket is still current and I can still drive the Search and Rescue Land Rover Ambo on blues

Yes, to add for @stephec & for clarity, in respect to emergency services the situation would have to be extreme to necessitate barging, the cost of damages to both civilian & ES vehicles would be considered & an out of service/action fire appliance or ambulance helps no one.

With some thought applied, there is usually a better way.

 

[subaqua]

58Meaning of “emergency”

In this Act “emergency” means an event or situation that causes or is likely to cause—

(a)one or more individuals to die, be seriously injured or become seriously ill, or

(b)serious harm to the environment (including the life and health of plants and animals)


covers if there is a fire !

lots of appliances parked up in London area. none in fecking stations tho.

the logic of govt in London . We have less fires , so repeal section 20 of London act regards Fire precautions on buildings over 9 storeys . and cut the amount of fire fighters.

its one or the other nobbers. cut both and fire deaths/injuries will rise again.

 

[screenman]

My son drives a fire engine, they will often get claims that it has damaged cars whilst on a run, often fraudulent ones. Even down to the point the nearside of a parked car was damaged whilst the pump passed on the offside.

 

[Andrew_P]

Don't care on the legalities of it I have knobs who park on the yellow lines on the corners overnight barely get a van thorough selfish lazy twots for the sake of 5 minutes walk max they would rather make life difficult for everyone. Don't get me started on the reserve tactical parking for those with 3-4 cars

 

[DRM]

Seem to recall there was an idiot on my parents street when I was a kid, who took great delight in always double parking his van to be akward, one day a house lower
down the street (a cul de sac) had a kitchen fire,when the fire engine turned up it couldn't pass and they had to go find whose the van was to get it shifted, he was told in no uncertain terms they were about to ram it and he would be held responsible for repairs to the fire engine, that put paid to his childish parking as it always went on the drive after that.

 

[Accy cyclist]

Yes, if Life and Limb is genuinely at stake. Not just the risk of harm, it has to be serious harm or death, quite a high bar. They never do it though, because they don't have enough vehicles to have a unit off the road being mended.

My dibble ticket is still current and I can still drive the Search and Rescue Land Rover Ambo on blues

Something tells me you drive something like this.

 

[screenman]

58Meaning of “emergency”

In this Act “emergency” means an event or situation that causes or is likely to cause—

(a)one or more individuals to die, be seriously injured or become seriously ill, or

(b)serious harm to the environment (including the life and health of plants and animals)


covers if there is a fire !

lots of appliances parked up in London area. none in fecking stations tho.

the logic of govt in London . We have less fires , so repeal section 20 of London act regards Fire precautions on buildings over 9 storeys . and cut the amount of fire fighters.

its one or the other nobbers. cut both and fire deaths/injuries will rise again.

My son is going to be made redundant in September, for the last 2 years he has been both full time and retained. So full time is 40 hours a week in the station and retained is 65 hours a week on call, does not make for a great deal of time off for him.

 

[SteCenturion]

My son is going to be made redundant in September, for the last 2 years he has been both full time and retained. So full time is 40 hours a week in the station and retained is 65 hours a week on call, does not make for a great deal of time off for him.

Redundant from whole time or retained or God forbid both ?